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  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Actually Labour….not good enough for me.

    Announced Policies

    This is a quick overview of policies that Labour want to implement for anyone wanting a quick look. I guess for me, what I see combined with Greens policies and even IMP policies and what I believe MMP gives us is a bloody good start to try repair problems caused from the past by voting for a combo deal. I know Labour have admitted they made mistakes and I'm glad they admit this. I can only hope for a fair society and a fair share of what it takes to help everyone. I am sure everyone misses out a bit and I'm sorry for those that do. Hopefully one day that changes for the better of everyone not just a few.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Or you can choose not to vote.

    This in itself is exercising your democratic right.

    Better to think about it another way. If you don't vote, then everyone who does vote makes up parliament for you. So effectively your vote will be split 40-something % National, 30ish% Labour, 12ish%Greens, etc.

    Whereas if you do vote, 100% of your vote will go for the one you think is best.

    I get how people don't vote if they think all parties are the same and it doesn't matter who you vote for, I don't get how people who clearly think that some parties are worse than the other fail to show up at the ballot box.

    My major concern with Labour is about their social security (“welfare”) policy, which is all about nice slogans about wanting to get rid of child poverty and narrowing the income gaps. They seem to be more concerned with middle class welfare, as that is where the votes are.

    I agree. The 5th Labour government didn't attack the Richardson benefit cuts, I doubt the 6th Labour government will do much to improve the lot of beneficiaries.

    I was heartened to see Greens get aggressive on child poverty over the weekend on the news. I haven't looked at the details yet, but it seemed to be a substantial commitment, and they were including beneficiaries in the pool.

    It looks like a punitive approach. Have a look at the health policy. See anything even acknowledging that alcohol consumption has a correlation with domestic violence. Do you see anything in the law and order policy you quoted from, that looks at, OGM I am about to sound like a bull buggering bastard, Women who abuse children, and the fate of those children? No – Because it’s not trendy to look the the compleat picture, better to look the other way.

    I haven't done any work in this area for 20 years, and even that was brief, but the connection of alcohol to violence was something that the police were very interested in pushing. Womens Refuge were (in my view) well ahead of them - they viewed alcohol as removing inhibitions in many cases, but that the violence was already there in the person.

    I wouldn't regard any party policy that headlined alcohol as the primary thing to solve in relation to violence as being in the 21st century.

    Actually Labour….not good enough for me.

    You are very well aware of what that piece of legislation is called…

    Your concern isn't with the substance of the policy, but that in writing it they haven't named the legislation that will be amended when they implement the policy?

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Rosemary McDonald, in reply to Kyle Matthews,

    Your concern isn’t with the substance of the policy, but that in writing it they haven’t named the legislation that will be amended when they implement the policy?

    Oh, I am very much concerned with the substance of the policy, what concerns me is that they, the Labour Party, has chosen not to name the actual piece of legislation itself....just a generic " family caregivers legislation " , which could be the actual PHDAct(2) or the more specific but equally nasty piece of work that was born out of the amendment...the Funded Family Care Policy.

    http://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/disability-services/disability-projects-and-programmes/funded-family-care-notice-and-operational-policy

    Considering the Labour Party could have sorted this shit before it went to the Tribunal in 2008, I suspect that rather than doing what ought to be done from a NZBORA point of view, repeal the amendment to the PHDAct AND, please AND reveal the redacted sections of the Regulatory Impact Statement, they will simply tweak the FFC policy, so more people sign up to it.

    Because, Funded Family Care has gone down like a cup of cold sick.

    Waikato, or on the road • Since Apr 2014 • 1346 posts Report Reply

  • Brent Jackson, in reply to Kyle Matthews,

    Better to think about it another way. If you don’t vote, then everyone who does vote makes up parliament for you. So effectively your vote will be split 40-something % National, 30ish% Labour, 12ish%Greens, etc.

    That is a brilliant way to think about not voting. Props.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 620 posts Report Reply

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