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Should we also point out that if this thing hadn't been scooped by a newspaper, the whole incident would not have come to the public's attention and the guy would have, you know, got away with it?
I take your point but right now I'm not a fan of news media, and I don't think we should ever leave it to them to bring us the law or judgment on people.
The correct procedure should someone have had legitimate information on this case would have been to have reported it to the police, and then for us to have learned bout it via police sources (this is of course ignoring the fact that our police force is a piss poor excuse for men and women to wear uniforms and complain about how under funded they are so why should they even bother trying to uphold the law (and I say this from personal experience with them), but that's another argument for another time)
trial by media is not something to which we should aspire, and media printing unsubstantiated claims be the presently denied or not is not something we should be applauding. They should have stated that they had verified the information given and discussed it with police, instead they treated it as something to sell newspapers.but in the meantime we owe what we know to unnamed sources, do we not?
that would all depend on what we know, and since veitch is the only one talking and he's not saying much we don't know as in actually know facts of fuck all, and apparently powell wants it that way for whatever her reasons but one of her friends possibly does not.
And a lot of it is uncontested, is it not?
uncontested doesn't make it true although I agree it does give the appearance of truth, but experience would show you that truth takes its time if we're even allowed to glimpse it.
the whole thing smells funny, from the apologists side to the hang em high side.
I'm a smart enough person but I'm finding it difficult to figure who the real veitch is and what happened,
my imagination could come up with some impressive scenarios but then they'd still just be what I thought up so not worth the brain cells they're written on. -
Yes, his bravery is truly awe-inspiring.
your sarcasm cuts like a knife,
you could have said ill-advised. -
It takes courage to do what you are doing.
Thanks, I'd hope some people weren't stupid enough to interpret my comments as in anyway dismissing violence.
This case, (outside of the central core of a couples act of violence) for me highlights some huge flaws in our society, how we marginalise and distance things (its him that did it, i'm passing judgment on him), how we accept being manipulated (where do I start), and how we are still the emotive and instinctive creatures we chose not to see ourselves as (thinking rational beings all of us, I think not).
how can you address an issue if you don't first acknowledge it?ps I resent 20 mins of an hours news being devoted to sport so I've got even more reason to dislike veitch than most.
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and her adultery made his actions 'understandable'.
that line seems to jump around a bit doesn't it.
I'm not sure if it is still true but wasn't adultery grounds for murder (justifyable homicide) in france up until recently. I'm sure there are other third world countries where that is still the case. we've got a long long way to go as a species -
Shall we settle on "broken" then? He broke her back.
shall we settle on what an official source says?
veitch has said he was under the impression that he had caused bruising until later corrected, powell hasn't spoken on the subject and the rest is unverified sources.
lets go for the revealed in time thing you said before but push for it to be revealed quickly, -
(Robbery ,you may need to correct me;-)
pass, not really up on that case other than he was a celebrity that did bad shit and is back on our screens.
I do admit to watching the show cos my partner is a cat freak but I mostly paint the humans out of the picture in my head. -
This is starting to feel really creepy-weird.
and it wasn't already?
I find the media detail creepy and weird, I find our spiraling standards of what we expect and accept from our journalists and news papers creepy and weird, (ie I'm addressing a statement printed in a newspaper that said someone pushed another person down the stairs and left them there for 6 hours and the newspaper didn't feel the need to verify the source or explain anything about it except to print it knowing full well that people take newspapers at face value)
I find holmes creepy and weird, -
and that doesn't seem to be in dispute
you're the only one I've seen use the term crushed (was it crushed or shattered, I'm too lazy to go back through the thread to find out) and I think the closest to official statement was fractured, which is bad enough as it is. if it had been broken arm we wouldn't have felt so queezy about it but we're very sensitive about our spines knowing full well the permanent possible nature of damage.
it does matter cos your way of phrasing it paints a picture of superhuman cyborg lifting frail earthling into the air with one hand and with a vice like grip turning her spine into power, I had visions of sarah connor chronicles.
I think its important to keep the picture of what happened real so that society can learn from it. real people do real shit to other real people, its a line that can be crossed, and we shouldn't be casual in our attitude to it. its not what mythical celebrities and poor people in sth auckland alone do,
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Let me help
clever :)
lead pipe, lead pipe -
I mean, does this speculative detail matter?
apparently not to you mr shattered spine, or was it crushed? :)
yeah, I think its really important considering how emotive this is,
did he throw her down the stairs or not?I mean, does this speculative detail matter? At this stage anyway.
depends if you're the talk back radio type, or a facts kinda guy.
I'm sort of the laterAll will be revealed in the fullness of time.
so in the meantime can we just make shit up? I want to get my alien abduction/ hermaphrodite multiple personality angle in there somewhere.