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I've made my argument for "there's no such thing as uncrackable"
if that were the case wouldn't your quote have read 'All' software covered by ilok? not wanting to annoy you or anything cos you're quite unpleasant when you're annoyed
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some software
would imply some hasn't.
and why are you tying down the future delivery medium of music to digital.
some labels are delivering on vinyl only now,
you know what a hassle it is to copy stuff off vinyl.
I do. fucking pain in the ass medium. -
If they want to stop the internet, they should get a big pair of scissors and cut the line.
could work, is that your best scenario option?
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psst- someone provided me
one of em was uncracked, people were trying for months and months.
I know cos I have shifty friends who were trying to acquire it.And isn't the real reason you don't crack ProTools is because it comes with a large hardware desk interface?
hmm, interesting bit of lateral thinking there
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Nothing is uncrackable.
finn you're going to have to provide links and back up for your statements or I'm going to have to ignore you. so far you've contributed vague aspersions of your personal beliefs and for some that might be relevant but until you show us someone of respected knowledge ie not you, with some scientific data to back up what you're throwing around, its just meaningless....
as far as I know no one provided a crack of logic 5. lots of people were waiting and looking for it for a long time. also you're idea of crackable is based on the assumption that what you will be dealing with is some kind of software.
you also have a very dim view of the inventiveness of man (thieving scum though he may be) in your world there is no powered flight, the moon landing was a hoax (and maybe it was) and ...... you know what I'm saying. never say never.
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a crapload of illegal music,
DRM involves media, including film. so my points are not related only to music.
how banning youtube in Turkey isn't working at all,
missed that bit. I know they can filter content out at isp level.
maybe not watertight but again enough to piss off 75% of people.
ISP's have the ability to know where you're browsing and do something about it if they care to, or if someone insists they do.which is what I said would happen. Until that changes...
correct, but you're going to give it a few weeks to trial it first aren't you, since you're not like finn and think everything will always be how it is now.
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The government can say that all they want, if it doesn't make any difference in reality, then my point is proven.
:) what was you're point anyway?
my point is that it is possibly to control what people download.
see turkey filtering all youtube, see choking high users in nz, see packet inspection etc.This contradicts people who say they can't touch us, cos quite obviously they can. its not a black box. its totally openable at their end.
your point will be proven when france gives up, but since they've only just announced the initiative maybe wait a couple of weeks before you claim victory :)
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re QTrax/SpiralFrog.
The company promises to share ad revenue with the song owners and claims that deals have been made with the four major record labels: Universal Music, Sony-BMG, Warner Music Group and EMI. Interestingly enough, those labels haven’t yet confirmed any plans.
apart from the majors not acknowledging cooperation yet I'm pretty sure music is produced by more than 4 top players, although I'm prepared to be corrected.
The service works by centralizing music from P2P sites and then reoffering the songs with some extra DRM attached. Songs are downloaded to the listener’s computer, but they can only be played back inside of the Qtrax ad-supported player. The player expands to fill the user’s screen, but don’t fret because you can still surf the web with a Mozilla-based browser inside of the player
so does than mean we'll see a heading "DRM coffin opened a little"?
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Well, as I pointed out, major labels now willingly countenance the free delivery of music under circumstances their lawyers still insist amount to theft, because, in the end, it increases sales.
actually you didn't point it out specifically till just then and you still haven't delivered a link to back up your claim.
you also don't address the fact that these are desperate measures. They're not looking at this cos they think its good business, they simply don't know what else to do and are trying anything. you also don't prove that it actually works better.Back to your original question though. would I rather sell 50 and have control or sell 500 and have have a shit load help themselves.
if I was a starting artist, the second.
if I was a second tier artists who had made my first couple of records, said those important things that I needed to tell the world etc, and was trying to do music as my career, ..........
the 500 isn't going to cut it (and in nz its not 500 its about 150), I'll fall short of paying off the costs of making it, it'll cost me to make it and I still won't have paid my living expenses.
Real world NZ... a number of our better musicians who have had some success already are opting to just not make records any more. they still love their music but they can't justify the expense to themselves. So rather than selling 150 they're opting to sell nothing, give up and get a day job. If you email me privately russell I'll give you their names. And those 150 copies, that number is diminishing all the time.some of the creative marketing examples raised on here are indeed good ideas, but the reality is they only work for a few people, they're not a solid marketing model that you can base an industry that has no control of the distribution of its product on.
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No convincing robbery.
Discussion isn't about convincing, its about debating all aspects of issues in depth. I've raised quite a few things most haven't thought about. because of me we can all now see ourselves as self justifying criminals, no better than shop lifters although open to penalties far worse if prosecuted. (its ok, you can thank me later)
We got the info on the first country to require their ISPs to control piracy.
We got to see through Radioheads h.y.p.e machine.
We know that hollywood demonised the corps cos it makes good movies but truth is there a many many more artists with incredibly boring and fair contracts than there are being ripped off and its not really a justification for theft.
As a light fingered consumer I'm more than happy with the way things are now, but unlike some I don't think for a moment its going to stay like this without repercussions. I also don't think that if I was a law abiding non shoplifting customer that DRM is my enemy, just that the implementation of it needs tweaking.
All I've been convinced of is that there are some really ill informed short sighted people out there, lacking in lateral thinking,