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By page 30 or 40 we'll really be starting to get somewhere.
what's the longest thread on PA anyway? I'm guessing 19 pages is big but not the record?
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if you want to pick a subject, stick to it and actually discuss points substantively then maybe you might find people a touch more respectful towards you.
where's your moderator bag?
I wasn't aware that you'd been appointed and were fluent in the rules of correct debate.
I find pretty much everyone else's comments quite reasonable, I don't mind you commenting but you seem to want me to say that you're right and I just well to be honest, I'm not trying to impress you so i'm happy if you don't engage me in conversation, that cool?
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what I said
some labels are delivering on vinyl only now,
what you said I said.
* Everybody's going to go back to vinyl anyway. Sure, whatever.
FFS finn, get a grip. if you're going to mis quote me at least have the decency to let a couple of pages of discussion pass before you do it. its on the same fucking page mate :)
* DRM failing is a bad thing. Irrelevant to the point as to whether it is actually possible in the first place, which is what I've been trying to discuss with you.
you assume I want to talk to you. I think I've made it quite clear that I've got your point, stated my observations relating to it and moved on since you were adding nothing new, no links no facts. and some really strange logic.
* VLC can't play FLV files. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html - bottom of the table.
doesn't play the ones I've extracted from youtube in the last couple of weeks.. maybe I can apply some of your logic here... um let me see, just because it doesn't doesn't mean that it doesn't? is that right?
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one for you kyle
assuming you're correct and its an unstoppable force meeting an immovable mountain and the force wins, ....
what do you see as the ramifications of that for creative content?
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No, the fact that some software hasn't been cracked does not prove it uncrackable. That's a logical fallacy of the highest order.
Really, professor?
ok by that logic the fact that something has not been successfully copy protected doesn't mean it never will be. -
every time somebody calls you on the impossibility of what you're staunchly standing behind
I've also questioned the notion that musicians are happy to have the music stolen so long as it reaches a large audience. many musicians are hesitant to go on record as being fucked off and strongly opposed to the current situation because they don't want to be openly attacked or "lars ulrich'd"
some do smile graciously as their music sails freely on the pirate seas, but those would be the ones on a record company salary with little to lose. I guess some record contracts aren't all bad. -
But let's take an example closer to home. I could restrict access to Public Address to paying subscribers -- and call it, say, "Public Address Premium Content". But then I'd devalue my proposition to advertisers, and to the people willing to pay, who would find the community contributing to discussions considerably smaller than had been the case. And someone would just find a way to get around it anyway.
So I give it away. And I actually give it away quite a lot outside Public Address. I talk to five different radio stations (at the same time as I make paid radio content) because it's good marketing. It's just network economics.
yeah but PA is your loss leader.
PA is part of RB media expert, which I assume you charge for when you write columns for the listener as an authority or papers for NZ on Air.Personally I have no objection to paying for quality content. one of my favourite blogs shut down through lack if income and I was completely prepared to pay for it as opposed to the alternative of having it not exist.
and you don't give it away. you sell it to your public by making them consume advertising. its not free.
I'd rather pay a dollar or 2 to watch a show without ads than lose 15 mins an hour to ads. with your blog you'd whittle your audience down to net nerds and that wouldn't do if you want a full on 'internet savvy' persona. ad blocker makes the whole experience a lot more fun but I suppose thats a bit like downloading music for nothing isn't it :)
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And, by their own terms, nearly everyone already gives away music, via YouTube, MySpace,
this isn't true.
every since myspace updated their setup software to default to listen only everyone is making available their music for listening and not download. most pages do not have download activated for music. yes you can stream capture sound, but what a pain that is. you'd have to really want it.youtube is also set up for view only although you can install plugins to capture, the file format is flv which doesn't play on quick time or VLC player. the free players for mac are shit or the ones I have found are.
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every time somebody calls you on the impossibility of what you're staunchly standing behind
untrue again, I liked the concept of catering to peoples desire to share and I don't staunchly stand behind anything, and I take offense to suggesting I feel about anything so strongly that I would.
either you haven't read or don't fully understand many of the points I'm throwing out there.
if DRM is to become history as Russell infers in his title, I have said that this is not necessarily a good thing.
I have said the justifications that the general population and certain authorities and media comentators have thrown up for wholesale free for all (evil record companies deserve it cos they all rip artists of all the time, I saw it in the movies etc) its jut plan crap, embarrassing crap at that.
I've said the concept of copy protection isn't as simple as topping someone downloading an mp3. There are lots of factors involved in the road to that mp3 and many ways of making it a bloody pain to access. I don't pretend to have all the answers (although you seem to for yourself) but I do have an number of questions.
and I haven't been obnoxious to everyone, mostly just you cos its hard to respect someone who shows no respect, and seems to enjoy arguing more than discussion.other than that, I got no problem.
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also this concept of uncrackable. not entirely necessary, a fucking hassle, difficult to crack, pain in the ass to work around, only computer geeks can be fucked working around it, etc etc, all those options are viable and more appealing than just pick it up and steal it. Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm sure you will.