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Finally, here's a thought experiment.
How does disability fit as an ethnicity, the way it is officially defined?:
Ethnicity is the socio-cultural group or groups that people identify with or feel they belong to. An ethnic group is a group whose members have some or all of the following characteristics:
• share a sense of common origins
• claim a common and distinctive history and destiny
• possess one or more dimensions of collective cultural individuality
• feel a sense of unique collective solidarity.Ethnicity is self-perceived and people can belong to more than one ethnic group and may change their ethnicities over time or in different social contexts. Ethnicity is not the same as ancestry or race. People frequently identify with ethnicities even though they may or may not be descended from ancestors or related people with those ethnicities.
Now imagine what the census form would have to say to encompass that wrinkle.
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As for the Ethnicity v. Nationality point, it is somewhat undermined by the fact that the form itself included choices that are as much 'nationalities' as New Zealander is.
I agree it does not distinguish between for example Tongans and Tongan New Zealanders born here (or is it New Zealand Tongans?).
Reporting figures lumped together too much is another whole problem.
Anyway, Tze Ming is way more informed about this stuff than me. Do read her prize 2004 essay "Race You There" if you haven't already - on that linked page.
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Sorry about my glib use of the word redneck earlier - didn't intend to offend anyone but I can see how it would. I can't supply the material I mentioned, but Statistics NZ's official analysis notes:
In the 2006 Census, those identifying as New Zealander:
* cover all ages, and are more likely to be male
* have higher regional proportions in the South Island than the North Island
* are most often born in New Zealand.In contrast to the total population those identifying as New Zealander:
* have an older median age, and tend to have more educational qualifications
* are less likely to be of Māori descent, and have higher incomes
* smoke less than the total population
* are more likely to live in a rural area.There is a more detailed report linked from that page.
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While you're topping up, Steve, I remembered that this conversation had happened hereabouts a few years back under the watchful tutelage of a respected specialist now marshalling middle eastern tweets. Worth a read.
They're taking over. The 'New Zealanders' I mean. As you can see, they're actively killing off the white-folk, looting their homes and renaming their children.
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And recent migrants from Europe seem far more fittingly described as "European New Zealanders". Statistics NZ just lost their nerve when they removed Pakeha as the preferred term.
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My definition of Pakeha, involves understanding Maori protocol.
I have not seen it defined that way before, Steven. To me it means I am from New Zealand but I am not Maori. I certainly do not feel at all "European" and tauiwi seems to fit more recent migrants better.
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Graeme, like the rest of the world we changed from race to ethnicity as a concept some time ago. Not that you'd know listening to talkback, I guess.
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Ae. Not Given Lightly deserves a global audience.
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If you're Pakeha, it's all too easy to think that there is no difference. I saw some unpublished analysis that showed a very high correlation between answering "New Zealander" and experiencing redness of the neck.
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As long as there are turgid members amidst the stiff gins.
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