Posts by Danielle
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We have a fan in our house who's usually pre-occupied with baby-care when it screens (like, that would happen in the coro audience).
Au contraire! Although its audience does skew older, a significant chunk of child-caring-age women watch Coronation Street. Says Jane Clifton in this 2005 article in The Listener:
For the past three months, the show was watched by nearly 17% of the female audience, and more than 15% of the men. This is a steady trend, more than justifying its primetime slot. For the over-fifties, it’s as close to compulsory TV viewing as you ever get, with close to half the potential audience of women over 60 watching it, and about a third of men over 60. But the younger viewership is pretty impressive, too. Of thirty- and fortysomethings, nearly 20% (women) and 13% (men) watch Coro. Nor do advertisers sniff at the 8% of 18-29-year-old women in the audience, either.
ETA The earlier Mad Men is the new season, I believe, while the later one is a repeat of an earlier season. Countdown to November 1963!
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He did a weird cover version of the Beatles 'She Said She Said', and did a rave in the middle about how it was about Lennon's first acid trip
When he stayed at our apartment in Houston (the story is in the NZ music thread somewhere) he loved our Yellow Submarine figurines. Rearranged them all into dramatic poses. I think the John Lennon one kept its salute-to-the-fans stance for months afterwards.
Also:
Dear The Checks,
Thank you for covering 'Rebel' - a song I would no doubt love even if it was recorded by Celine Dion in the style of 30 Seconds to Mars - in such an adorable way. The harmonies! Awww.
Sincerely,
Me -
I'm in, as long as you have a thread called 'Short Books, for People Who Can't Concentrate Worth a Damn and Who Are Also Irredeemably Shallow Thinkers'.
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Philip Matthews has added his reflections here.
Oh for goodness' sake. No one is 'willing to take up' the film quotation thing because it's NOT THE SAME ISSUE. In Rushmore, Wes Anderson uses a shot reminiscent of one from Kubrick's Barry Lyndon. (Not-as-clever-as-I-sound-nerd-alert: I admit I picked that up by listening to the Criterion Collection DVD commentary, because I have only seen Barry Lyndon once, and I've seen Rushmore an embarrassing number of times.) The fact that Anderson was *informed and inspired* by that shot, and included a variation of it in his film, is not the fucking same as taking quotes from someone else, tweaking them and passing them off as your own. It just isn't. One is referential/reverential, the other is emphatically... not. If all you have is words, and you use the *exact same words*, there's no way you're reworking the source material or having a 'dialogue' with it in the way that a filmmaker can.
(I liked 'someone called Lucy Stewart', though. Clique-tastic!)
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I was watching that yesterday and was unduly fascinated by Chris' pompadour...
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NZ On Screen is the business. That's great.
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a vocal segment of an indigenous people is calling for repatriation of all other peoples
They're a really tiny vocal segment, and most people think they're wackaloons. Then people with shoulder-chips end up taking this extremism as an excuse to whine endlessly about Pakeha identity and ignore perfectly legitimate Maori grievances. It's the New Zealand race relations version of 'what about teh menz?' and it's fucking stupid and embarrassing. Kyle is totally right.
(And I speak as someone who believes that there is a legitimate Pakeha culture, and it could be awesome. We [they - argh, have no words for myself] just need to stop banging on about how UNFAIR it is not to be INDIGENOUS all the goddamn time.)
Tom, I'd like to agree with Joe that that was a shitty thing to say to Giovanni, even in the service of making your dubious We Are The Pakeha Champions point. C'mon, dude.
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I hate it when people engage in off-thread discussions
That's basically my entire raison d'être on teh internets. Oh dear.
Speaking of NZ classics and the ukulele, I once got a proper musician friend to work out the chords for Toy Love's 'Rebel'. But my skill level is far too low to do it justice.
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he found out the truth that they werent indigenous or the original settlers of the sth island
But... everyone knows Ngai Tahu weren't the 'original settlers of the South Island'. You're all 'gotcha!' about an accepted fact. Boring old Te Ara encyclopaedia entry:
'The process was again one of small incursions, occasional bloodshed, piecemeal occupation and intermarriage rather than steady conquest. Kinship connections were forged to legitimise residence in each region. Ngāi Tahu occupied the Otago coast and the far south.... While there were skirmishes between Ngāi Tahu and the tribes of Raki-ihia, the settlement was enduring. In fact, all the southern South Island signatories to the Treaty of Waitangi in 1840 were descendants of this union, and of all three tribes, Ngāi Tahu, Ngāti Māmoe and Waitaha.'
The fact that all this intermarriage occurred (by whatever means - I'm certainly not all 'hooray for exchanging your daughters for goods and ceasefires!', but it was all too common in many societies around the world) means that your whole point is just... obsessive and weird. What do you suggest the solution is? Chopping up Islander and me into appropriately Ngai Tahu, Kati Mamoe and Waitaha bits so you can feel better about the Treaty settlement?
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George Harrison [was] sued for plagiarism and lost and paid and we all moved somewhere new because as artists they did it for us.
To be fair, it's a lot easier to lift a melody unawares ('My Sweet Lord' from 'He's So Fine', for those who don't know) than it is to take whole sentences, tweak them and insert them into text. That's totally, uh, 'awares' on Ihimaera's part.
(Also, Jolisa said the anti-plagiarism software didn't really pick up most of the instances she found. So it has obvious limits.)