Posts by Jackie Clark
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Hi Jackie, I'v been thinking of you since my "lawfully wedded wife" has been doing the early childhood education degree. She is planing to do like you.
Oh good! We need more good 'uns. Keep encouraging her - it can be a bit of a mind fuck at times. It takes a while to get your head around what the job is , and why it's so valuable.
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Russell, that is such a delightful and tearinducing vid. I have to admit to not being that up with Lily Allen, but I will have to investigate further.
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Oh, so much to say. It's taken me two bloody hours to read all these posts, dammit, and I intend to have my say! Pardon me if I repeat points already made....
I don't particularly see why anyone would want to get married who isn't religious.
I've been wondering why I said "yes" all those years ago. Really, I was never, ever going to get married. I love my husband dearly, more than when we got married, but if I'm honest, at the beginning, I think I got married because he asked, and I loved him, and I think I may have got temporarily swept away with it all. There are, of course, many reasons why people want to get married. You don't need to have a personal god to be into it. Which brings us to.....
I am clearly the only non-religious person in New Zealand who really liked getting (non-religiously) married.
Me too, Danielle. There are alot of us around, you know. And they're getting married younger too. Now, the marriage thing appeals to me because as Craig said
hey made a choice, and stuck it no matter how hard it got. If you can't do that -- won't even try -- how the hell do you end up with anything worth having
I don't take away from nonmarried partnerships at all. Marriage just seemed to be the thing that worked for me. Surprisingly. Having said that, with the benefit of age and experience, if my husband died, which he could very well have a few years ago, there's no way in hell I'd ever do it again.
My father was a forty nine year old Maori Anglican widower who married a white Catholic woman quite literally young enough (27) to be his daughter.
Snap, Craig. Apart from the Maori thing. Dad was 47, Mum was 24, and I was in the womb.....No-one blinked an eye, although, like your father, my dad's second wife had died exactly a year to the day he married my mum. Interestingly enough, in 1963, because Dad had been divorced, they weren't able to be married in an Anglican church, so they got married in a Presbyterian one.
And back to same sex marriage.......So I ask, what is it about "marriage" that the opportunity to partake of it by same-sex couples is so keenly sought, when civil union provides all the substance?
. If people want to get married, why on earth shouldn't they be allowed to? Never mind all the legal shit - if someone loves someone else, and wants to make a go of being with that person for a very long time, and they'd quite like to do the wedding thing, why not? Alot of this sentiment, for me, seems to come from those to whom the right to marry is not denied. You only take the right to it for granted because you have it IMNSHO, Chris.
And now, my turn to question Tess.Actually, let me be more precise, if a couple marry and choose not to have children, I don't agree with that.
You kid, do you not? Perhaps not. I got married, been married 17 years, have no children, want no children, got a husband. Haven't I suffered enough? But seriously. I find this really, really hard to believe that, in this day and age, this sort of anachronistic view still exists. I'm just saying. All due respect. But, really? Oh, don't worry, just colour me speechless.
the greatest threat to your beliefs won't come from shrinking polite Christianity, but from a disgruntled Islam
. That is such a lazy argument, Tess. Did you study the Koran in your search for spiritual enlightenment? Speaking of which, I just have to ask. Do people who say things like this ....
I wanted them to have access to a spiritual life.
not understand that spirituality and religion are not synonymous? Why can children not have access to a spiritual life without the church/place of worship thing? Just asking. Glad you're a happy Catholic BTW. Although why one would subsribe to the tenets largely set down by a man who's never been married, and can't have sex, I just don't know.
And finally, because no-one else really addressed it, and because I love her so.I am very unhappy that those paticular holidays are tied to one religion - Christianity. I'd be interested in hearing other views on this matter because it does have relevance into the thread i.e a lot of our law is still based on 'christian' concepts, and we are no longer a nation where Christianity is the majority religion.
Sing it sister. I'd be happy with the whole Easter/Xmas/religious holiday thing if it was at least acknowledged that all of them are stolen from the ancients, and have been conveniently tailored to fit biblical myths. Right. That's my say. As you were, with all your very intellligent musings.
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Well, Melissa Lee caused some merriment in Mangere this past couple of days. And some ire, also. The merriment was mostly about me living over "this side" and the ire was about, well, her hapless generalisations. Mostly though, the people who talked to me about it were well pleased she'd shot herself in the foot. Melissa will have learned a saluatory lesson by the end of all this, I am sure.
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And may I mention the Topp Twins here? And recommend their fillum?
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What a well written piece. Thankyou Russell.
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me too Sacha....
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Mind you, they did have to rename the halloween party for this year because a number of parents refused to attend it last year for religious reasons.
For that, and for so many other reasons, I am eternally glad to have never worked in a kindergarten where the predominance of parents was, how shall I put it? Oh, yes, that's right. Middleclass. And white. And neurotic.
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Yeah. What the writerly one said.
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And what of golliwogs, Dyan? They too are collectable nowadays (sorry Emma, I'm old).