Posts by Sam F
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The Herald's take is a little different.
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Well, despite the vitriol directed at Grant, it seems that the police did shoot at, and hit, the gunman on Thursday when they had an opportunity.
I might have been immoderate in my choice of words, but I think this actually weakens Grant's case rather than strengthens it. Seems like the police took an opportunity to end the siege, and then acted entirely reasonably to preserve everyone's safety when it didn't pan out.
Which suggests that they're, y'know, professionals, and not action heroes somehow held back by PC lily-livered authorities a la Die Hard?
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Have you guys never dealt with simple concepts before?
The police are not armed. They could never have achieved what I believe should have happened. The Armed Offenders Squad is trained and policy should reflect that training.
The AOS are well-equipped, but contrary to what's in the movies, their bulletproof garments don't just allow them to creep up under fire, with military-grade bullets fired from close range bouncing off them like Iron Man.
Molenaar had powerful weapons, was rather good at using them, and was also quite good at concealing himself. Alas, not as keen to obligingly reveal his position as your 'commonsense' fantasy requires.
You've only really offered one idea in all your posts on this thread - that the AOS needed to man up and shoot the guy (so simple!) rather than getting into a PC criminal-coddling lather about it. You really, really want this to be true, even to the point of handwaving away actual police officers' knowledge about the best way to handle these incidents.
Suggest you exercise some real common sense and recognise your own ignorance on this subject, rather than inflicting said ignorance again and again on the rest of us.
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Most threads seem to quiet down over the weekend unless there's some burning issue at stake.
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Last I checked, Waterview wasn't all that arrogantly affluent, but whatevs.
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Do the LAVs have launchers for tear gas etc? Could that be what was visible?
Multi Barrel Grenade Discharger (MBGD): 8 x 76mm grenade dischargers capable of discharging either smoke or high explosive grenades with an effective range of 60m.
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So the big issue for Mount Albert is ... Laura Norder? Based upon 50,000 reported cases last year (of what?) for the whole of Auckland City, and "what happened in Napier"?
Set sail for fail indeed.
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And yet for all the media coverage, very, very little was made of the sensational use of the light armoured vehicles in this seige. It is without precedent in New Zealand, and yet was barely remarked upon.
I remember being asked once, rhetorically, just what Auntie Helen wanted to do with LAVs that were so well optimised for armed crowd control. Eh? Eh?
The speaker was a nice chap but the crinkling tinfoil distracted me a bit.
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Have they retrieved the body from the driveway yet? Or are they just going to leave the guy there till Sunday?
That's a particular horror which had slipped my mind. I suppose the overriding concern has to be nobody else getting killed, though.
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Oh, and don't go and quit now. You do seem fairly switched on and we'll make something of you yet. One of us ...