Hard News: History is now
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I liked " I will always be honest to you"
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The Onion brings it, as per usual.
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Alaska's calling:
3 Electoral Votes
37% of precinctsPopular Vote
Obama 36% McCain 62%Votes counted
Obama 39,527 McCain 68,264Senate
Stevens (R) 49% 54,101
Gegich (D) 46% 49,741House
Young (R) 52% 56,397
Berkowitz (D) 44% 48,374 -
Graeme
That's good to know, but I agree that the Reps are going to get at least 1 more. -
Thanks, Danielle. And then I went and listened to Obama's poetic power and thought it was just as well I hadn't heard it before I wrote anything.
MLK's dream has always resonated with me, but I had forgotten that other speech. BTW, until embedding is fixed I can't see the clip, so I encourage everyone in the meantime to do what Russell has thoughtfully taken to doing and link some text to it as well.
Didn't 538 do bloody well with their projections - see the matching maps at top right.
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Giovanni
"To elect a black man, in this country, and at this time—these last eight years must have really broken you."
That's gold
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To guy who's saying goodbye always has an easier job than the guy who's saying hallo.
yeah, but i felt that mccain's speech was much more heart-felt. whereas obama peaked then dipped into something his speechwriters wrote, then peaked again.
</firmly cynical>
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It is a truly amazing day when it only within my lifetime that African American have had the vote
"Amendment XV did give black people the right to vote in 1870, and some used it right away, electing state and federal senators and representatives. Jim Crow quickly snatched away that right for all practical purposes, however, as poll taxes and literacy tests--and Klansmen--denied blacks that fundamental right. President Johnson's Civil Rights Act of 1964 was the true turning point in our national history of beginning to embrace blacks as full citizens with equal rights."
It feels as though a great day in history has been created
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"...I thought McCain and Obama made powerful speeches about reconciliation for all Americans.I wonder if McCain is already been offered a role in the Obama camp....just putting it out there..."
No, Americans all seem to have a not to latent idealism about the unifying idea of the American dream.
It what makes them so different from us, I think culturally we lost that idealism of our imperial dream - blown to muddy smithereens on the Somme and at Passchendaele - never to be recovered.
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I'm throwing it out there.
And having just returned from a US Expat election party where more than a few were throwing it at least in the air, if not out there, I too am very pleased to concede to you Giovanni (but with the added proviso that defeatism is a working stratery that most of NZ's sporting teams would do well to embrace before major clashes..it works)
I will, with a happy heart, track down a suitable token to go with the watch....
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Tom you don't think we are a young nation which has yet ti find their idealism?
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:whereas obama peaked then dipped into something his speechwriters....
I thought he said his best friend was his speech writer, which seems win win to moi.
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Your best work Che.
Obama was bloody good, but McCain actually gave me goose-bumps.
And I'd never rated him much before at all. Kind of highlights his gaffe in picking Palin. If he's been himself from the start who knows?
Having said that; what a huge improvement on both sides from 2004.
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Ballot Measures:
Arizona Proposition 102: Ban on Gay Marriage
Yes 56% No 44% 92% countedArizona Proposition 202: Hiring Illegal Immigrants
Yes 41% No 59% 92% countedArkansas Initiative 1: Ban on Gay Couples Adopting Children
Yes 57% No 43% 90% countedCalifornia Proposition 8 Ban on Gay Marriage
Yes 52% No 48% 42% countedCalifornia Proposition 4: Abortion Limits
Yes 48% No 52% 40% countedColorado Amendment 46: End Affirmative Action
Yes 49% No 51% 70% countedColorado Amendment 48: Human Life from Moment of Conception
Yes 27% No 73% 71% countedFlorida Amendment 2: Ban on Gay Marriage
Yes 62% No 38% 99% countedMaryland Question 2: Allow Video Lottery
Yes 59% No 41% 93% countedMassachusetts Question 1: Repeal State Income Tax
Yes 30% No 70% 92% countedMichigan Proposition 1: Allow Medical Marijuana
Yes 63% No 37% 87% countedMichigan Proposition 2: Allow Stem Cell Research
Yes 52% No 48% 87% countedNebraska Initiative 424: End Affirmative Action
Yes 58% No 42% 98% countedSouth Dakota Initiative 11: Abortion limits
Yes 45% No 55% 98% countedWashington Initiative 1000: Allow Doctor assisted Suicide
Yes 58% No 42% 43% counted -
you don't think we are a young nation which has yet to find their idealism?
Yes, maybe we're still weaving it. I am confident that it will have a strong pacific flavour, and an unassuming practical one too. Figuring out how to do pramatic idealism may be our ultimate gift..
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Barbara - I subscribe to a theory that holds the Great War to have been a cultural and moral cataclysm that it's most affected participants have never really recovered from.
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I will, with a happy heart, track down a suitable token to go with the watch....
You, sir, are all class. For my part, I'll work on the moustache.
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Kos reports:
With 99 percent reporting, McCain is winning Missouri by 338 votes.
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Obama's speeches are good. But would be even better if he hired the speechwriter who had a part in the last script for McCain.
And finally, McCain embraced Palin. What did that body language tell you?
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McCain actually gave me goose-bumps.
And I'd never rated him much before at all.
well, that's exactly it. i wondered, "maybe *this* is why the guy got as close as he did?"
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And finally, McCain embraced Palin. What did that body language tell you?
It told me that the guy has pemanently dislocated shoulders.
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Tom - I find that interesting, but surely Gallipoli was what helped us to break the Colonial shackles.
Anyway that is off topic. It is truly great that the US has elected someone who is thoughtful and will try to forge links, rather than hawkishly impose its will upon the rest of the world.
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McCain actually gave me goose-bumps.
That was easy for him to do. Meaningless words. The hard part would have been to turn his campaign from a the negative slime feast to something else.
He could redeem himself by changing the nature of the Republican party. Let's judge him then.
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Don,
I don't really care about the Republican Party, and I'd imagine changing its nature is a task beyoned most mortals.
All I'm saying is that for a year or so we've heard how he was an indepandent maverick, and the only evidence I'd seen of that was that Bush beat him in 2000.
I thought he was your typical Republican reptile, backed up by the choice of Palin.
But tonight I saw what the fuss was about. I guess it was the surprise factor that made his speech more memorable than Obama's
Wouldn't the world be a better place if he's beating Dubya in 2000?
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what leg said.
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