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  • Graeme Edgeler,

    Oddly, I can't find the report of the Attorney General on the original Bills BORA compatability - i though there had to be one, or does he just not report if he believes there's no problem?

    The A-G reports to Parliament if there is an incompatability. There is no report if there is considered to be no inconsistency. There is an analysis, however, to see whether there is an inconsistency, and allow there is no requirement to make them public, they now always are.

    The one on the Copyright (New Technologies And Performers' Rights) Amendment Bill 2005 is available here. It is six paragraphs long. The first paragraph names the bill.

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3004 posts Report Reply

  • slarty,

    I imagine the person who did that would be sued into bankruptcy if they were not actually the copyright holder, or perhaps prosecuted.

    So, we just need to find a sympathetic someone who is a legitimate copyright holder...

    But personally I would suggest a look at the web sites of political parties, MP's, SOE's and lobby groups may be more fruitful.

    Since Nov 2006 • 290 posts Report Reply

  • slarty,

    How does law this bad come to pass?

    IMHExperience...

    The sniff of an FTA? A life after parliament?

    But really... just failing to pay attention in the run up to an election.

    There's a deeper issue behind this - an industry that has leached off the 'poor struggling artist' for far too long, based on a transitory business model that is fundamentally unsustainable.

    I actually think this might just be the catalyst we need to begin the collapse of the current IP model. Up the revolution brothers (and sisters. In fact both sexes and hermaphrodites).

    Since Nov 2006 • 290 posts Report Reply

  • Jarno van der Linden,

    An Internet service provider must adopt and reasonably implement a policy

    If I may act stupid for a moment: What if they don't? What penalties would an ISP face?

    Nelson • Since Oct 2007 • 69 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    They would be sued by the rights holders.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16662 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    There's a deeper issue behind this - an industry that has leached off the 'poor struggling artist' for far too long, based on a transitory business model that is fundamentally unsustainable.

    Parts of it are way sustainable. APRA had its best year ever last year.

    Copyright incomes from synchronisation rights, performance rights and publishing are fine. Selling stuff is harder -- but that's in part because other forms of deriving money from the ownership of music copyrights have flourished.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18884 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    They would be sued by the rights holders.

    ... and if they get it wrong in the other direction, they will be sued by their customers.

    Hence the rights holders needing to tilt the playing field through these law changes that subvert natural justice, rather than relying on normal business tactics.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16662 posts Report Reply

  • Rick Shera,

    dammit beaten by Sacha of all people ;-)

    But, that's right - as per an earlier post, 34 film and TV companies are suing iiNet in Australia for "authorising" p2p users to infringe using its services, on the basis that it did not terminate them in response to multiple allegations (which iiNet referred to the Police).

    Auckland • Since Feb 2008 • 22 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Rick, it's cos I stopped with the single malts earlier on Saturday, I'm sure. :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16662 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    I've just noticed. Rick Shera has the coolest, geekiest legal email address ever.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1615 posts Report Reply

  • Samuel Scott,

    it is quite simply the infringement of copyright that makes the internet good.

    This law is supposed to protect musicians and the like, but find me a musician who doesn't enjoy the occasional bootleg....

    Take 'Vader Sessions' or the Titanic 2 preview off youtube and might as well give up on life.

    I don't think this argument is as simple as 'some people who are not that naughty may be punished'. I want rights for the really naughty awesome people who make cool things for no financial gain of their own out of other peoples stuff!

    South Wellington • Since Feb 2008 • 297 posts Report Reply

  • Samuel Scott,

    Copyright incomes from synchronisation rights, performance rights and publishing are fine. Selling stuff is harder -- but that's in part because other forms of deriving money from the ownership of music copyrights have flourished.

    ...and APRA and licensing is pretty much the way every musician I know makes money off there music. It seems very clearly that it's the record companies and not the artists that are freaked out by downloading. Musicians are such egotists that people not downloading their music is a nightmare. 'They don't love me?'

    South Wellington • Since Feb 2008 • 297 posts Report Reply

  • Samuel Scott,

    man i wish there was an edit button. there, their umm thare, thear, theer.

    South Wellington • Since Feb 2008 • 297 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    "man, I wish there was an edit button"

    heh heh heh.
    Do you know, a year ago, this would have made no sense to me?
    Just chatting eh.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Islander, I just knew those words would attract you here. :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16662 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Author, meet muso..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16662 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Yo both-

    quoting a very strange & brillant man "My brain is open"-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    But personally I would suggest a look at the web sites of political parties, MP's, SOE's and lobby groups may be more fruitful.

    And the music industry, of course.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1642 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Litterick,

    Somebody tell Coldplay.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Music videos are advertising; their proper name is 'promos.'

    you just made drop and break my brand new whiskey bottle. heathen.

    your taxed dollar • Since Mar 2008 • 1494 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Ashby,

    So long as it wasn't whisky, what's the harm?

    Dundee, Scotland • Since May 2007 • 425 posts Report Reply

  • Amy Gale,

    quoting a very strange & brillant man "My brain is open"

    Ah, Erdos.

    tha Ith • Since May 2007 • 457 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    So long as it wasn't whisky, what's the harm?

    the bishop! now you mention it, it was whisky!

    your taxed dollar • Since Mar 2008 • 1494 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Ashby,

    the bishop! now you mention it, it was whisky!

    In that case I hope it wasn't a Single Malt that would be a terrible, terrible calamity. A Vatted Malt only slightly less so, a blend: com çie, com ça.

    Dundee, Scotland • Since May 2007 • 425 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Ashby,

    Oh and I have a hierarchy on the Single Malts as well. Most Speysiders for eg rank close to blends, whereas if it was distilled on Skye . . .

    Dundee, Scotland • Since May 2007 • 425 posts Report Reply

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