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  • robbery,

    but I wouldn't ask her about astrophysics.

    but you would ask her about opera, live performance, how she derives her income from her craft, the laws that relate to her craft and how they affect her, how technology has impacted on her, etc etc.

    Islander isn't commenting on astrophysics.she's commenting on the direct field of her experience.
    in this thread you're closer to the person commenting on astrophysics.
    you're ideas and concepts are valid to be considered but you're not you ain't the proven expert...... yet.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • robbery,

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Mark Harris,

    Waikanae • Since Jul 2008 • 1343 posts Report

  • robbery,

    aren't nine inch nails and radiohead just exploiting a different scarcity model. ie the scarcity of promotion via free. when that becomes abundant then there will become no point of difference to their approach and the 'scarcity' effect will wear off.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • robbery,

    Relaxed camera / recording policy for the upcoming NIN/JA tour

    - NO access to barricade/photo pit.
    - NO shoulder mounted video equipment allowed, all cameras must be hand held.
    - NO equipment with a dimension longer than 20 inches (including cameras, lenses, etc.)
    - NO equipment bags that violate existing venue bag policies (check with venue)
    - NO external supports (tripods, monopods, steadicam mounts, mic stands, etc.)
    - NO video or audio broadcast equipment (microwave, RF, etc.)
    - NO external power equipment
    - NO lighting equipment (mounted or secondary)

    Audio and video recorded at NIN/JA shows is for personal use only, and cannot under any circumstances be sold or used for profit in any way.

    wimps.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Rob Stowell,

    Is this Wired article: Hulu vs Vevo another sign of the trend Simon noted earlier: for on-demand to eclipse download-and-store?

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2120 posts Report

  • Rob Stowell,

    And here's Wired's rating of Obama on copyright:

    Copyright: D
    The president has brought at least five Recording Industry Association of America lawyers into the Justice Department, placing two of them in the number 2 and number 3 spots. Obama’s Justice Department has also weighed in on an RIAA file sharing lawsuit, supporting the Copyright Act’s civil damages of up to $150,000 per purloined music track. The Bush administration had taken the same position.

    Obama is also negotiating the so-called Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, a global intellectual property treaty that got underway during the Bush administration. Obama declared the inner-workings of the treaty a national security issue, as did his predecessor, by refusing Freedom of Information Act requests to divulge any clear details of the measure.


    Leaked documents published by WikiLeaks suggest the proposed act would require internet service providers to terminate repeat copyright scofflaws, criminalize peer-to-peer file sharing, subject iPods to border searches and even interfere with the legitimate sale of brand-name pharmaceutical products.

    Meanwhile, Vice President Joe Biden says Obama is searching for the nation’s first copyright czar, a cabinet-level position created by Congress to be on par with the drug czar.

    Others aren’t so sure of our grade. “It’s more Obama is cutting class than a particular grade,” says Fred von Lohmann, a copyright attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation. “I think the administration is facing more important priorities than copyright law right now. The economy is the most obvious issue right now. ”

    It's hard to imagine our friendly Nats advocating more change.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2120 posts Report

  • robbery,

    go away for a week and you guys can't keep a conversation going by yourselves? sheesh,
    I'll look round and see if I can find something controversal or offensive to direct you toward.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    Oh, is it back? I had hoped for a silent death. The thread, that is.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Danielle,

    Remember Tze Ming's Thread That Wouldn't Die? How long was that - 20 pages? We were mere *amateurs* at keeping a thread going then, Sacha. ;)

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    A little deliberate misunderstanding and repetition goes a long way. :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • robbery,

    I had hoped for a silent death.

    I had hoped you'd drifted off to another carcass

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    Oh, and I'd forgotten the insults. They go a long way to creating more heat than light. As you were.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • 81stcolumn,

    Sacha-

    I think you meant more Suasage than Sizzle - thats your problem.

    Nawthshaw • Since Nov 2006 • 790 posts Report

  • Sam F,

    I had hoped you'd drifted off to another carcass

    Don't know about Sacha, but speaking as a copyright thread hyena myself, you've come back and poked this so often I've pretty much lost my appetite. All yours as far as I'm concerned.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1611 posts Report

  • giovanni tiso,

    When the sole subject of a thread is the length of the thread, then the thread is dead. And yes, I am aware of the irony of prolonging the thread by making this claim.

    Still, I'm sure there will be developments in the world of copyright which will get posted here and then the waltz will start again. We should hope it's one of those old waltzes by now in the public domain.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • robbery,

    All yours as far as I'm concerned.

    what's with the grand exits on this thread. Is this a master class in "I'm leaving"?

    all I'm saying is, 93 pages. that's not that far from 100 is it?

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • robbery,

    Still, I'm sure there will be developments in the world of copyright

    there will be indeed Giovanni.
    like this one,

    Brett Cottle is the Chief Executive of APRA|AMCOS. From the mid to late ‘90s Brett featured prominently on the board of CISAC (International Confederation of Societies of Authors and Composers); and in 2007 he was appointed Chairman Board of Directors of CISAC. Brett is also a Director of the Australian Copyright Council and a past member of the Copyright Law Review Committee. In June, Brett will chair the 2nd CISAC World Copyright Summit in Washington DC, where critical policy issues will be debated among the international copyright bodies.

    Recent debates around copyright legislation in New Zealand have highlighted the importance of content in today’s digital age. These issues are crucial to you, our members and to APRA's operation. In this informal forum we want to discuss our position on future copyright frameworks in NZ and the development of an APRA Charter. We will also have the opportunity to discuss current member issues and any queries you have. It is important for us to hear your feedback on these issues - we hope you can join us.

    Now I'm so not a cynic........ or maybe I am, but that seems like a prime opportunity to infiltrate and disrupt. some should really get onto finding the location of those meetings and getting on to it.

    there was also some independent interpretation of those Norwegian stats floating around. I'll someone else grab those and post em.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    At the risk of reviving this thread, but this is (almost) worth it, it's now official that the MPAA in the US are all on crack

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    Please assume I hit the PAS edit button which allowed me to fix the punctuation in the previous post, thus repairing the gabbled phrasing of said post.

    But they're still on crack.....

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • David Hamilton,

    Wow, thats low.

    Hamiltron • Since Nov 2006 • 111 posts Report

  • robbery,

    crack.....

    please think of the children and all that.
    in the age of $10 - $20 retail dvds what's the necessity to copy them?

    The "copy stuff" thing is more applicable to tv broadcasts and in the olden days duplicating expensive and difficult to manage 16 mm films. It's hardly applicable anymore. As much as I dig righteous indignation I don't see what the need to copy is about.

    Educational institution buy text books, surely this is the same thing or is this about referencing excerpts?

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Steve Barnes,

    I was thinking of posting this link last week but I didn't want to wake up the sleeping beast, but, as your awake now, here's the link.
    Five things New Zealand's copyright law rewrite must cover

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    Wow, thats low.

    Not sure why it's worse than saying they're nuts, implying mental illness. Although for all that it seems to be fairly common phraseology in this part of the world implying they've done something rather bizarre and irrational. And so they have.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Mark Harris,

    Simon: Yup, that's what I thought when I saw it. The irony of allowing camcording as legitimate copying seems to have escaped them completely.

    Steve, thanks for the link - somehow I missed the Ars one. Although it's based on the now discredited NBR story (maybe the MPAA shared some of whatever they're smoking), the five points are worth considering:

    # Fair use. (This is essential. Fair dealing just doesn't cut it)
    # DRM circumvention. (The Act allows this in some circumstances)
    # Safe harbor.
    # Copyright term extensions.
    # Format shifting, time shifting. (The Act allows limited forms of this)

    However, I don't expect this Government to undertake a full rewrite during this term. Expect more patchwork.

    Waikanae • Since Jul 2008 • 1343 posts Report

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