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Hard News: Start with your conclusion

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  • wendyf,

    Ah, I'm pretty sure it was ZAP. I wasn't sure about the dates :-}} Thanks.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 76 posts Report Reply

  • Alien Lizard (anag),

    influential business persons in Christchurch who wielded a lot of political power back in the 40's? 50's? 60's?

    Social Credit?

    The Arrrgh Complex • Since Jan 2010 • 158 posts Report Reply

  • Alien Lizard (anag),

    ZAP

    Dave Henderson and friends (Robin Booth, Trevor Loudon, et al), devotees of Johnny Dalhoff/Ultimate who had abandoned (or been tossed out by) Scientology...
    Chch is full of new Hendo's Holes - where the Tivoli/Westend used to be in the Square and in ratepayers' pockets where the council bailed him out by buying 5 properties - but hey "What we paid
    for the properties is irrelevant because
    he will buy them back off us,"
    Council Chief Executive, Tony Marryatt said.
    Yeah Right!
    (hope he answered that email from Nigeria too...)

    The Arrrgh Complex • Since Jan 2010 • 158 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Litterick,

    I hope to discuss the question as to whether Sir Miles Warren is a reptilian shape-shifter in my PhD thesis; but Ifear the Illuminati won't let me.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report Reply

  • Just thinking,

    W & M were a force for good, but that all changed after the Christchurch Town Hall.

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1147 posts Report Reply

  • philipmatthews,

    W & M were a force for good, but that all changed after the Christchurch Town Hall.

    You might not like post-modernism, but evil is a bit strong, isn't it?

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2007 • 642 posts Report Reply

  • Just thinking,

    It's not the style, it's the standard.

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1147 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Litterick,

    It was a mid-life crisis for Sir Miles. He now regrets it.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    “I always used to complain that Jews ran the world,” said Reginald Weber, author of “Zionists and Zookeepers: The Unholy Alliance.” “But now I’m starting to worry that nobody’s in charge.”

    Yes, my thoughts exactly.
    You only have to look at George Bush, oir even our "dear leader" to know that a conspiracy is beyond the capabilities of those that aspire to power.
    Dumb and dumber. Before the discussion has begun JK has informed us that he has already made up his mind on marijuana law reform. I guess he wants the drug money to stay with the gangs, after all, they did save the world from financial collapse.
    Bankers, pah.

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4783 posts Report Reply

  • stephen walker,

    a conspiracy is beyond the capabilities of those that aspire to power

    gosh, that's an interesting perspective, but it seems to me that Bush, Blair, et al, conspired quite successfully to invade a country for no valid reason whatsoever, resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths and millions of refugees.

    and Goldman Sachs, et al, also seemed to have conspired quite successfully to use the collapse of US and European credit markets as a means of facilitating tens of billions of dollars flowing from public treasuries into their own bonus-fattened bank accounts.

    but you prefer to think such conspiring for power and monetary gain is beyond their capabilities? mmm, hmm. must be all just cock-ups then, eh?

    nagano • Since Nov 2006 • 633 posts Report Reply

  • andin,

    must be all just cock-ups

    The end result was a cock-up certainly, and because of false certainty on the part of those who colluded they set in motion chains of events which they thought they could predict with that same certainty.
    Only to be proved wrong.
    What's that saying "Life makes liars of us all"

    Unbridled certainty is the problem, and those in positions of power and influence are easy prey to their own human weakness's which power does not make them immune from.
    So Ian Wishart with his wacko liberal/Soros conspiracy theories is wrong. And if those with influence in this debate grab hold of his arguments they will commit mistakes that, if they have a conscience, they will regret.
    The caveat, of course, is they may not see it that way and their conscience may never trouble them.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1207 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    it seems to me that Bush, Blair, et al, conspired quite successfully to invade a country for no valid reason whatsoever,

    That I doubt. Perhaps there are those a little further down the chain with their own agenda? Those that supplied and manipulated the "intelligence" that led Blair and perhaps Bush to make their case for war. You cannot tell me that Blair, himself, went to Iraq and came back and told the British people that he had seen WMDs with his own eyes and they had no choice other than go to war.
    The question is whether others, further down the chain of command, lied to further their own agenda or was it a self perpetuating mass hysteria, political momentum, seemed like a good idea at the time, sort of thing.
    And what Andin said.

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4783 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    I found this interesting. The Soros Media "Empire" The Power of Philanthropy to Engineer Consent. It refers to Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent.

    Oh crap, did I just mention George Soros and Noam Chomsky in the same post? I'm outta here...

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Alien Lizard (anag),

    Meanwhile in Sydney at the weekend
    Secret Summit of Top Bankers
    weird there was all that rain there too
    maybe they were drowning their Soros?

    The Arrrgh Complex • Since Jan 2010 • 158 posts Report Reply

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