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Hard News: Just don't call it "Party Central"

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  • recordari, in reply to Russell Brown,

    The D-Ring at the main stage was introduced after some really dangerous crowd surges when (ugh) Limp Bizkit played, and it has prevented a repeat of that.

    Anything that prevents a repeat visit from Limp Bizkit is Ok in my book. ;-)

    Anyone else going to the free concert in Shed 10 tonight? Actually, please don't, so I can have more space to myself.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    From that link:

    "If your going to Going Global Music Summit & Showcase" ...

    ...then don't forget to take some grammar lessons before you go!

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2326 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to recordari,

    Anything that prevents a repeat visit from Limp Bizkit is Ok in my book

    A Nickelback booking?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16277 posts Report Reply

  • Glenn Pearce,

    Isn't hindsight wonderful.

    Just clarifying - I'm not just shrugging my shoulders there. I'd like to know what went wrong too. I reckon there might have been just too many fingers in the pie and no-one singularly responsible ?

    Auckland • Since Feb 2007 • 344 posts Report Reply

  • recordari, in reply to Sacha,

    A Nickelback booking?

    Their new album is out in November, so be careful what you wish for.

    Arrrghhh!

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX, in reply to Glenn Pearce,

    Organisers knew they were expecting 150,000 - they didn't get it together.

    This article from the herald provdies a summary:
    http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10751133

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1174 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX,

    For the next big Auckland event Len Brown has wants, in a bid to ease the numbers, Barry Manilow booked as the on site entertainment.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1174 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to recordari,

    Arrrghhh!

    reckon.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16277 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    It is pretty unhealthy and will become germ ridden and disgusting

    If they were selling decent beer it would infuse the wood and create a patina, also killing any microbes through alcoholic content. Mixture of H*******n and H*******n vomit, not so much.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4359 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Glenn Pearce,

    Just clarifying – I’m not just shrugging my shoulders there. I’d like to know what went wrong too. I reckon there might have been just too many fingers in the pie and no-one singularly responsible ?

    This has been a problem all along. Central government came up with Queen’s Wharf and then made it local government’s problem. Even a few weeks ago, no one was clear on where things would be located.

    So the tupperwaka (another govt fait accompli), originally planned for Queen’s Wharf, got shifted to the Viaduct late in the piece – and the giant rugby ball, long destined for Aotea Square, was put on Queen’s Wharf at the last moment, thus further reducing the capacity there. The RWC minister’s office has been confusing the hell out of other stakeholders for two years now.

    Which casts a certain light on Murray McCully’s furious phone calls to council leaders on Friday night.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18512 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to DexterX,

    This article from the herald provdies a summary

    Though transport is not the main point, as I've said on the thread where we've been discussing this.

    Focusing on transport operations without considering what drove un-catered demand is not going to help, though the various political 'leaders' involved may welcome a scapegoat or two.

    As well as the transport problems, another issue is that instead of providing additional fanzones at Henderson, Manukau and Albany on Friday night, cup organisers put all their resources into "the biggest party Auckland has ever seen" on the waterfront, knowing Party Central on Queens Wharf could accommodate only 12,000 people.

    But about 200,000 people poured into downtown Auckland.

    Now why would you ask Auckland Transport to tell you the answer to that?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16277 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX, in reply to Sacha,

    The point of my "posts" is that "spreading out" the opening event to Henderson, Albany and Manukau would have be a better planned solution one that could have been put in place prior to the precipitation of the problem.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1174 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to DexterX,

    Agree.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16277 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Before even a hasty review is done, both Brown and Key seem to have decided to pin this on the train operator.

    Prime Minister John Key says the blame for for Friday's Rugby World Cup transport debacle lies firmly with Auckland Transport and rail company, Veolia.
    ...

    Auckland Mayor Len Brown is expecting a briefing from officials today on what went wrong, but is already pointing the finger at train company Veolia.

    Michael Barnett at least mentions the role of event planning as well. And the Greens note some long-term causes and implications.

    “Everyone is pointing fingers, trying to pass the buck faster than a Sonny Bill Williams offload," says transport spokesman Gareth Hughes.

    "But the roots of Auckland’s transport woes are a deep bias in transport planning and Government funding.”

    Mr Hughes says that over the next 10 years, the Government plans to spend seven times more on motorways than on public transport.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16277 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to recordari,

    be careful what you wish for.

    A Creed/Nickleback double header!

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2326 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Sacha,

    Before even a hasty review is done, both Brown and Key seem to have decided to pin this on the train operator.

    And why wouldn't they: To be perfectly cynical, a weekend of "OMFG, train-fail ruined our big night" headlines are a big, easy target. No politician has ever lost a poll point sledging the evil foreign corporation.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11783 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Their new album is out in November, so be careful what you wish for.

    Nickelback Warning.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed,

    And were the multiple pushings of the trains' emergency buttons real or hoaxes? If they were indeed hoaxes, then the compensation for inconvenienced passengers should come out of the hoaxters’ pockets.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4060 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to DeepRed,

    Sounds like they may have resulted from panic about being trapped in crowded carriages without adequate communication. And from people determined to get to the bloody game if only they could get off the train.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16277 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX,

    From what I am hearing on the radiio - trains were left standing - with doors shut and no ventilation and those fortunate enough to have the air con on were effectively recycling the air inside.

    In response to being trapped in trains people pushed emergency buttons and tried to force doors to open them.to let air in or just get out and walk.

    Some people were stranded on trains for almost three hours.and being stranded on a train for an hour and a half was common.

    All around it is a massive fail which undermines the future (the public/ having no confidence) in Public Transport.

    Public Transport in Auckland needs to go back into Public ownership.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1174 posts Report Reply

  • recordari, in reply to Rich Lock,

    Creedleback.

    Do you mind, I'm trying to eat my lunch. Urban dictionary is becoming a great source for humour. In unrelated news, Shihad just walked into a cafe in Kingsland. Anyone got a guitar?

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to recordari,

    You might enjoy this. WARNING: requires some Nickleback listening.

    Did someone just drop the F(ormulaic)-bomb

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2326 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Sacha,

    And from people determined to get to the bloody game if only they could get off the train.

    I guess we should just be thankful that nobody was injured, or killed, because their "determination" took the form of a basic rail safety fail.

    All around it is a massive fail which undermines the future (the public/ having no confidence) in Public Transport.

    Public Transport in Auckland needs to go back into Public ownership.

    With no respect whatsoever, Dexter, perhaps the next time some fuckwit triggers a emergency stop or decides to go walkabout in a working rail yard they should be prosecuted. I know the media isn't interested in reporting this, but I'm reliably informed there were people who were in distress on halted trains who notified train staff, were promptly (and safely) attended to. It's not pleasant being on a crowded, stuffy train or bus, especially when it's been delayed. But having seen the trauma train drivers go through after a work-related fatality, I'm rather short of sympathy for people who were so damn irresponsible.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11783 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4613 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to recordari,

    Barry Manilow booked

    I'd see the shit out of some Barry Manilow for free, if it came to that.

    In unrelated news, Shihad

    I know this is sacrilege round these parts, but I'm not sure how 'unrelated' to Creedleback that statement is. :) #hashtagwhichexpressesgeneralmehnessaboutalltheirworkafterKilljoy

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3623 posts Report Reply

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