Hard News by Russell Brown

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Hard News: A cog in the Mediaworks machine

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  • Rob Stowell, in reply to llew40,

    what does it say about us if Scout is a success?

    There's no doubt the values and identity of the nation have been moulded by 30 years of neoliberal thinking and framing. And there's no doubt people like gossip.
    But let's not declare defeat too quickly.
    National have done things that are 'left-wing.' Surely that's because their focus-groups and polling indicate it will be well-received by the mainstream.
    So far TV3's ditching of Campbell, and replacement line-up of fluff and nonsense has been a ratings disaster.
    What does that say about us? :)

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to llew40,

    So …. what does it say if shallow recycled entertainment news is popular in NZ?

    It reminds us that a democratic nation can develop collective phycological disorders.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4310 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to llew40,

    So .... what does it say if shallow recycled entertainment news is popular in NZ?

    It's popular everywhere.

    That's why Stuff and the Herald website run it right throughout the day and why the Daily Mail's "sidebar of shame" exists.

    The thing is really whether Scout is doing it well and whether it adds enough value. After all, modestly-paid online editors are throwing this stuff onto competing websites the moment it comes off the wire.

    The decision to lead with a Judith Collins interview today really shows how limited Glucina's reach is. She's trying to establish the few people she actually has an in with as celebrities.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22749 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

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    Okay, I do not understand this at all. Scout's official Twitter account is locked. Why would you do that?

    It also appears that they're culling followers – like 200 down in the past hour. This is just weird.

    Update: The account is unlocked again, with the explanation that they're trying to get rid of fake followers.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22749 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Telfar Barnard, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    It’s charitable to call it a fucking lie at best, and it’s used by hypocritical cunts as an excuse to slam the door behind them. The late comedienne/disability activist Stella Young neatly deconstructed it:
    “That quote, ‘the only disability in life is a bad attitude’, the reason that’s bullshit is … No amount of smiling at a flight of stairs has ever made it turn into a ramp. No amount of standing in the middle of a bookshelf and radiating a positive attitude is going to turn all those books into braille.” When anyone tells me to ‘just believe in yourself’, I have to resist the temptation to say, “I don’t want your smiles, I want a ladder you motherfucking cunts!”

    Sorry, off topic, but…

    Halle-fricking-lujah. I was thinking a variation of exactly this when I took the "Be Accessible” survey. Now, I’m sure Be Accessible has entirely laudable goals. But presenting me with “What’s the best thing about having a disability” with the options “Greater empathy for others/Ability to be flexible, problem-solve/A different experience of life/Other (please specify)” just makes me want to spew, and including “your own limiting beliefs” but not “pain” among the options for “What’s the hardest thing about living with a disability” is similarly insulting.
    Did they test this survey before they took it live?

    Rant and derail over, as you were.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 580 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    I... "shallow recycled entertainment news" has been a huge feature of mass media since it began! There were movie star gossip magazines during the silent film period; there were society gossip columns even further back than that. The reach and detail of this news has increased with the internet, but the reach and detail of EVERYTHING has increased with the internet. I'm mildly wary of "everything is different and bad" narratives about this stuff.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • James Francis, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Or even spamming almost the entirety of Auckland's National Party elite.

    St John's, Newfoundland • Since Nov 2006 • 121 posts Report Reply

  • Marc C,

    Sigh, the “gutter” is a bottomless pit, I fear. There will be no hope with that kind of trend within the NZ media, and no hope for the too easily "formative" minds of too many in future. New Zealand will be “lost”, unless this is stopped, right now!

    Akl • Since Oct 2012 • 437 posts Report Reply

  • David Hood,

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1443 posts Report Reply

  • llew40, in reply to Danielle,

    Oh fair point, I dont think I was suggesting that this is an entirely new thing. More that at least *some* of the criticism of Scout seems to miss the point that plenty of New Zealanders like this stuff.

    Since Nov 2012 • 140 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to David Hood,

    Daniel Defoe was imprisoned for his gossip column writing in 1703

    Perhaps being a cheerleader for capitalist self-interest goes with the gossip-columnist thing. When Robinson Crusoe eventually returns to civilisation he learns that his prudent investments made years beforehand have effectively set him up for the remainder of his life. This discovery is presented as an emotional high point, with the former castaway so overcome by a sense of self-congratulation that he needs to take a wee lie down.

    Rachel Glucina is going to be leading a small but perfectly formed team to dominate entertainment news in New Zealand and beyond.

    "Small but perfectly formed" used to be a favourite phrase of Metro founder Warwick Roger, both in and out of his Felicity Ferret frock.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • Berinthia Binnie, in reply to llew40,

    So …. what does it say if shallow recycled entertainment news is popular in NZ?

    It says Keewees prefer Kool-Aide over Raro.

    Since Sep 2015 • 23 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Danielle,

    “shallow recycled entertainment news” has been a huge feature of mass media since it began!

    Even that Bible blockbuster was all who’s begetting who…

    ;- )

    </gets monochrome coat and leaves>

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7887 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Berinthia Binnie,

    keeping up with the Joneses...

    Kool-Aide over Raro...

    ... strictly 'Tonga in chic' I hope...

    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7887 posts Report Reply

  • Berinthia Binnie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    … strictly ‘Tonga in chic’ I hope…

    EXCLUSIVE: Influential Jung NZ'da Max Key! models Ezibuy Resortwear Summer 15/16

    Since Sep 2015 • 23 posts Report Reply

  • chris,

    Sorry I'm late to this discussion, I've been up to my ears registering Twitter accounts to fake follow Scout.

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason,

    | Scout Assoc preparing to boil “SCOUT” in paper bag. Seems they have dib dib dibs on that one…..maybe

    Hmmmm……

    Scout Association of New Zealand Amendment Act 1967
    Private Act 1967 No 3
    Date of assent 24 November 1967
    Commencement 24 November 1967

    5 Restriction on use of names
    • (1)Except with the consent of the Governor-General in Council and subject to the provisions of this section, no association of persons, whether incorporated or not, shall exercise the functions for which it is formed under the name “Scout Association” or under a name that contains those words or the words “Scout” or “Boy Scout”.
    (2)Where any enactment provides for the registration of any association of persons, the registering authority shall refuse registration if in the opinion of that authority the use of the name by which the association desires to be registered is prohibited by subsection (1).
    (3)Every incorporated association that does any act in contravention of any of the provisions of this section commits an offence and is liable to a fine not exceeding $100 and, if the offence is a continuing one, to a further fine not exceeding $10 for every day on which the offence has continued.
    (4)Where any unincorporated association of persons does any act in contravention of this section, every member of the association shall be deemed to have committed an offence and shall be liable to a fine not exceeding $20 and, if the offence is a continuing one, to a further fine not exceeding $4 for every day on which the offence has continued.
    (5)Nothing in this section shall apply to the Corporation or to any association of persons that is a member of or is affiliated to the Corporation or to any branch of such an association.
    (6)Nothing in this section shall apply to the use by any association registered, before the passing of this Act, under any enactment of any name that was in use in New Zealand by that association on the passing of this Act.

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1588 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    I hope nobody dobs my hairdresser in?

    But is a business an “association of persons”. And why do they have this legal protection, over and above trademark law?

    I see there’s a $40 fine for wearing an unauthorised Scout badge… Dib dib dib

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    The name of Mediaworks' new venture has upset the NZ Scout Association whose values of "have respect, do what is right, and be positive" do not align with Glucina's "sex, scandal and gossip" offerings. The Association is taking legal advice.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1385 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Telfar Barnard, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    I hope nobody dobs my hairdresser in?

    Ooo, I wonder if we have the same haircut? But I doubt it. Annabel’s too awesome to allow that. Now I just wish I’d thought to suggest to her that she get the domain name.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 580 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Seems a small faction of right-wing Aucklanders has some talent for getting others to fund their megaphones. Troughers.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19683 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Alfie,

    The name of Mediaworks’ new venture has...

    ...merely to add an 'i' to be an anagram of 'coitus'!
    Coincidence? Or not...?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7887 posts Report Reply

  • Dave Waugh, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Update: The account is unlocked again, with the explanation that they’re trying to get rid of fake followers.

    Am I alone in taking that as a "purging all who dare take issue with anything I say" response?

    “Small but perfectly formed” used to be a favourite phrase of Metro founder Warwick Roger, both in and out of his Felicity Ferret frock.

    Also a heavily used phrase under the tenure of Mr Ralston who I see is a fave of snout.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 98 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Dave Waugh,

    There was also "small but powerful", which was never applied to people, only to BMWs.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Dave Waugh,

    Am I alone in taking that as a "purging all who dare take issue with anything I say" response?

    No, it appears they actually had nearly 50% fake followers, very suddenly.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22749 posts Report Reply

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