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  • Jan Farr,

    with the charge often led by freemarketeers--partly because such consumption is central to their cultural capital. But I guess we should never expect consistency nor self-examination from such folk.

    Who are you calling a free marketeer?

    Carterton • Since Apr 2008 • 394 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Who are you calling a free marketeer?

    Word. My head has been hitting the desk with a certain metronomic precision this morning. Obviously the concert programme has taught me well.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Litterick,

    I'd be happy to see money redirected to support music about and of this place, not by long-dead white Europeans whose local audience are amongst our most wealthy - and the most accustomed to subsidy it seems.

    That is quite a bundle of prejudices you have there. Being dead, white and European are not bad things in themselves. You are speaking of some of the greatest artists this civilisation has produced. Your claim about their audience being among our most wealthy is groundless.

    There is a great danger our our culture becoming parochial and ephemeral: where only local contemporary artists are valued, and where everything has to represent notions of indigeneity or nationhood. Having a radio station which represents a broader view of culture is important.

    Besides, many listeners cannot afford the tickets or make the journeys to concerts in distant cities.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report Reply

  • Just thinking,

    Geoff: That would be local residence and national citizens, the same people. Or is there a secessionist movement I'm not aware of?

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1158 posts Report Reply

  • LegBreak,

    I bet more people say they listen to Concert FM in surveys than actually listen to Concert FM.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1162 posts Report Reply

  • Jan Farr,

    My head has been hitting the desk with a certain metronomic precision this morning. Obviously the concert programme has taught me well.

    You're a national treasure Giovanni - I recommend you be publicly funded!

    Carterton • Since Apr 2008 • 394 posts Report Reply

  • Cecelia,

    "High culture" (with negative connotations) ... certain music "privileged" over other music

    Whence come these ideas? I was educated in the 50s and 60s and have not quite caught up with the more recent cultural concepts.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    Who are you calling a free marketeer?

    No one here. I was just making a general comment about a contradiction in broad debates about subsidised culture.

    I recall there was a classical radio feed out of Auckland some years ago. It had a modicum of sponsorship messages. Does this still exist?

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2474 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    No one here. I was just making a general comment about a contradiction in broad debates about subsidised culture.

    Yeah, well, in the meantime they're preparing an assault of what's left of our public broadcasting and if we could hear a little less of "Do it Julia!" it would be just grand.

    (For the purposes of this analogy, Julia is played by RNZ Concert.)

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Litterick,

    Who you calling Julia? Why do I not get this analogy?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report Reply

  • Danyl Mclauchlan,

    Having a radio station which represents a broader view of culture is important.

    But Concert FM has an amazingly narrow and specific view of culture.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    As a public servant who does not work for a radio station, but who also has to deal with no pay rises and budget freezes and budget cutbacks and line-by-line auditing I wonder, where's my Facebook group?

    I do like Radio New Zealand and think that losing it and it's level of quality would be a terrible thing. However, I can't seem to get up enough ire for this particular issue over any other public service.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Notwithstanding the dishonest politics Russell describes, I'd be happy to see money redirected to support music about and of this place, not by long-dead white Europeans whose local audience are amongst our most wealthy - and the most accustomed to subsidy it seems.

    Well, Sacha, you're a very well balanced individual -- chip on both shoulders. Still, a rather vivid case study in how toxic the elitism of cultural nationalists can be. Of course, the dirty proles don't listen to classical music unless it's in car ads. Of course, it's beyond the realms of possibility that Bach and Adams (and Shakespeare and Edward Albee) is every bit as much "about us" because we're human beings as much as cogs in a geographical construct.

    You also seem to miss that a pretty big part of the rationale behind Concert FM's recording and broadcast of live music (including programs of New Zealand music) is to make it all accessible to people who can't afford, or don't have access to, season tickets in Dorkland or Wellywood.

    Don't run Mr. Desk, my head wants to have a little make out session -- Liverpool style...

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12325 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Who you calling Julia? Why do I not get this analogy?

    Sorry, going straight for Orwell was possibly a bit over the top. It's just that when the Right comes in and says we're going to take Radio New Zealand away from you, I'd prefer if the Left's response wasn't "oh, okay, you can have the concert programme, because we know you work hard and deserve lower taxes". I think the correct response is in fact "fuck you". And it goes double for the public service jobs that Hadyn rightly reminds us of.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F,

    (For the purposes of this analogy, Julia is played by RNZ Concert.)

    I think you'll find that's pronounced Yulia on our new-look Concert FM Service. Don't forget to tune in after 5 for your chance to win a zippy new Barina courtesy of Team Capital Holden!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1607 posts Report Reply

  • Trevor Nicholls,

    But Concert FM has an amazingly narrow and specific view of culture.

    Does it really? You keep dismissing it as "a classical music station" but it isn't. It is a station that plays classical music. It also plays jazz. It plays contemporary world music. It plays documentaries, debates and discussions.

    Actually, Concert FM has a far wider and non-specific view of culture than almost every commercial radio station currently broadcasting in this country.

    Wellington, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 238 posts Report Reply

  • David Ritchie,

    "Do it Julia!"

    Indeed, but I think there's a "to" missing there.

    Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Ackroyd,

    But Concert FM has an amazingly narrow and specific view of culture.

    Giovanni - I'll do the offbeat.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 157 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Sorry, going straight for Orwell was possibly a bit over the top. It's just that when the Right comes in and says we're going to take Radio New Zealand away from you, I'd prefer if the Left's response wasn't "oh, okay, you can have the concert programme, because we know you work hard and deserve lower taxes". I think the correct response is in fact "fuck you"

    Well, fuck you right back -- and I'm fairly confident my cock is bigger. I hope that was good for you, but not exactly a conclusive case made either way.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12325 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Wow! The wingnutosphere is reaching new heights of wingnuttiness over Radio NZ.

    Farrar has endorsed another blogger's "scoop" that Radio NZ staff were being funded by Iran (to travel to a conference).

    It comes from a mistake in an internal newsletter, but it's the kind of allegation that any sensible person would actually check before airing.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 21915 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Litterick,

    Oh, that Julia; of course, sex, betrayal, rats, I get it now. And I agree. This very thread shows it. Rather than think of Concert as part of our common wealth, folks round here are saying it is just subsidised entertainment for rich white folks. Funnily enough, that is what they say around the Business Round Table.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Craig, I think Gio's "fuck you" was aimed at the government , not you personally. Let's keep our personal interactions reasonably seemly.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 21915 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Indeed, but I think there's a "to" missing there.

    Yes, well, the edit button won't help with the dyslexia it seems.

    Giovanni - I'll do the offbeat.

    Ah! At this rate we'll have a headdesk concerto and be ready to ask for funding by the end of the week.

    Craig, I think Gio's "fuck you" was aimed at the government , not you personally.

    Indeed. Although the idea that Craig is "The Right" has a certain morbid appeal.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed,

    Has anyone also observed that NZ is already glutted in the commercial radio market? We have more commercial radio stations per capita than Sydney alone, courtesy of ridiculously low FM spectrum prices in the late 1980s.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5239 posts Report Reply

  • Andy Milne,

    Can someone tell me how the quality or integrity of Concert FM would be degraded by limited commercial sponsorship? I don't fully buy Danyl's argument, but I'm equally unconvinced that it will be a Haitian-scale national disaster if Concert FM is partly commercialised.

    Christchurch • Since Aug 2007 • 58 posts Report Reply

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