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Hard News: Dirty Politics

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  • mpledger, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    It works the other way as well. Two of my workmates (one Maori, one Pacific) were mistaken for Mexican when they visited Los Angeles (separately). One was by a Mexican American who spoke to her in Spanish and then got mad at her for not being able to speak the language back.

    Since Oct 2012 • 97 posts Report

  • nzlemming, in reply to mpledger,

    One was by a Mexican American who spoke to her in Spanish and then got mad at her for not being able to speak the language back.

    Did she have a cellphone?

    </coat'n'hat>

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report

  • Paul Campbell,

    What I ind funny here is that "Dirty Politics: has now become a meme of the right

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2623 posts Report

  • Alfie,

    The Police have decided that was "no evidence of criminal offending" when Slater and Ede accessed Labour Party info. The comprehensive Police report manages to incorrectly spell both Hager (Hagar) and Tim Barnett's (Barnnet) names.

    Attention to detail... fail.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Attachment

    Something to do in Chchch on Monday night...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to Paul Campbell,

    can't control something unless you colonise it.
    hard to avoid some splashback though.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Stephen Judd, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    And I will give a brief address on behalf of the NZ Council for Civil Liberties. Should be an interesting event.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report

  • Alfie,

    Good grief. Now Jordan Williams is suing Colin Craig and three other members of the Conservative Party for defamation. Williams is quoted as saying...

    Ongoing public smears left unchallenged can gain currency even if they have low credibility.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't ongoing public smears the main identifying feature of the Dirty Politics brigade in the first place?

    Rearrange these words into a logical order:
    black pot kettle

    Somewhere in Auckland, groups of lawyers must be rubbing their hands in glee.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Alfie,

    Dairy me...

    ...groups of lawyers must be rubbing their hands in glee.

    I initially read that as
    "lawyers ...rubbing their hands in ghee."
    Quite the picture it summoned!
    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Alfie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Are you trying to butter me up Ian?

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Alfie,

    Whey leggo...
    ...are you calling me a 'churnalist'?
    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Alfie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Nope. Just spreading the word.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Alfie,

    Jammin'...
    'E came at me with a knife m'Lud.

    I knew I was toast!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Alfie,

    I see Mediaworks have announced their new "joint venture" with Rachel Glucina... a site called 'Scout' which I won't bother linking to. It's as if her role in Dirty Politics and her unethical behaviour towards Amanda Bailey never happened. And yet further proof that Mediaworks sees its target demographic as PL minus -- (slightly below pond life).

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Alfie,

    Scout’s honour?*

    Mediaworks… new “joint venture” with Rachel Glucina…
    a site called ‘Scout’

    I read that as Scut
    which I thought was pretty apt all round:

    Scut: a person perceived as foolish, contemptible, or objectionable.

    which pretty much sums up Wretched Glaucoma I feel…
    Scut work is also the domain of over-worked hospital interns – reassuring!

    but, no, I see it is Scout
    - they’ll ‘do their best’ I’m sure
    Camping it up when possible…
    sigh…


    ps: though I note the 2nd meaning of Scout is:

    reject (a proposal or idea) with scorn.

    I also note Rachel means ‘Ewe’
    or perhaps more authentically – ‘Eew!’

    * "used to indicate that one has the same honourable standards associated with Scouts and so will stand by a promise or tell the truth.”

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

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    I also note Rachel means ‘Ewe’
    or perhaps more authentically – ‘Eew!

    I tried to locate a pic of an Ewe for you but found it too insulting to the Ewe ,then I thought what other creature would be her equivalent and no, that was too insulting to all animals and insects I had pics of, then it popped on my screen so I think a fly's arse is about as good as she can get. :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Alfie,

    I see Mediaworks have announced their new “joint venture” with Rachel Glucina… a site called ‘Scout’ which I won’t bother linking to. It’s as if her role in Dirty Politics and her unethical behaviour towards Amanda Bailey never happened. And yet further proof that Mediaworks sees its target demographic as PL minus – (slightly below pond life).

    Seems the News of the World didn't shut down, it just emigrated to NZ with a new identity.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    they’ll ‘do their best’ I’m sure

    dob dob

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • izogi,

    From Stuff 45 minutes ago: John Key cleared over deleted Cameron Slater texts

    Prime Minister John Key broke no rules in deleting text messages, the guardian of the country’s public records says. Chief Archivist Marilyn Little has published a review of Key’s record keeping. She began the probe in November after Key revealed he binned texts from Dirty Politics blogger Cameron Slater. Little says Key received poor advice from officials. But his practice of routinely deleting messages for “security purposes” is “pragmatic” and unlikely to break laws surrounding public records.

    [–snip–]

    But Little did not directly address the destroyed messages between Key and Slater.

    She recommends text messages to and from ministers in their “official capacity” should be treated as a public record. If it is “of short term value” then can be disposed of. But if the contents need action or are of “long-term” value then it must be retained and transferred to support staff for archiving.

    Media release from Archives NZ.

    Report hosted by Archives NZ.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1142 posts Report

  • Rob Stowell, in reply to izogi,

    John Key broke no rules in deleting text messages

    No worries. I think we all know Cammo kept copies.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2120 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to izogi,

    John Key cleared

    more teflon #grrr

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • izogi, in reply to izogi,

    I've only skimmed it, but as far as I can gather:

    * The Chief Archivist (76) clarifies that text messages don't require retention if the content is transitory or of short term value, but retention is required for anything potentially of long term value or requiring action.

    * The Prime Minister says (56) he receives large volumes of text messages which are routinely deleted for security. He says it's only minor matters, anything significant references material elsewhere which will be considered on its merits for record keeping, and he doesn't conduct substantive Ministerial business by text message.

    * The Chief Archivist determines (57) that the Prime Minister is not fully aware of recordkeeping responsibilities, because messages should be disposed of with a record keeping mindset rather than a security mindset, but also determines based on available evidence (apparently being the Prime Minister's statement for the investigation) that there's no wilful negligence. It's someone else's fault for not giving adequate advice.

    * Furthermore (57), it's likely that deletion is compliant because based on available evidence (again being the Prime Minister's statement for the investigation) the only messages being deleted (all of them?) are transitory and so likely authorised for disposal.

    So, the conclusion of the Chief Archivist seems to be based on what the Prime Minister says he does, and appears to assume that there's nothing intentionally malicious going on which wouldn't have been made clear in the statement given for evidence. It doesn't specifically consider at the Cameron Slater allegations, and is based entirely on what the PM states his record keeping practices are.

    That's probably fine if you trust what the PM says about what he's been doing, but as there's no verification of whether the Prime Minister was being honest in his statement, it's unlikely to do anything to satisfy anyone who doesn't trust him. Based on what I/S posted today, I hear gallery media's not allowed to reflect on the character or conduct of MPs because according to traditional wisdom they're so important that they couldn't possibly act corruptly in their roles, or something like that. Problem solved!

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1142 posts Report

  • Alfie,

    Slater has been found guilty of contempt of court after publishing confidential information relating to a settlement with Matthew Blomfield on the Whaleshit blog. The fine looks like a mere slap on the hand.

    Despite Blomfield's claim that Slater had "backers" with access to funds, Justice Asher said he would treat Slater has if he had "relatively modest means" instead.

    He didn't agree with Blomfield's suggestion of imprisonment, because the contempts weren't of a serious nature.

    He ordered Slater to pay a $1500 fine, half of which would be paid to Blomfield.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Alfie,

    Former Treasurer of the Tory Party Lord Ashcroft has published an unauthorised biography in which he claims that conservative leader David Cameron stuck his willy in a pig's mouth. He claims that there is photographic evidence, though that hasn't emerged yet. If it's true, this surely makes Ponytailgate seem almost innocuous.

    Twitter is alive with David Hameron puns and Charlie Brooker denies any prior knowledge of the incident when he wrote a Black Mirror episode with an eerily similar plotline.

    O'K... to be fair I know this has nothing to do with Key's Dirty Politics, but I can see a loose connection, even if it's only wondering how Crosby Textor will try to spin this one. Maybe they'll claim that someone is telling porkies?

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Alfie,

    O'K... to be fair I know this has nothing to do with Key's Dirty Politics, but I can see a loose connection, even if it's only wondering how Crosby Textor will try to spin this one. Maybe they'll claim that someone is telling porkies?

    The same lot of reporting includes the claim that Lynton Crosby thinks Cameron is a prick ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

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