Hard News by Russell Brown

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Hard News: Dirty Politics

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  • nzlemming, in reply to Dylan Reeve,

    But if I understand it correctly Hager claims not to know the source – that the information arrived anonymously in the post on a USB flash drive. That’s a pretty solid dead end for anyone trying to force information from him.

    He said on Morning Report that he had extensive discussions with the person who leaked it to him, negotiating about what would be used and how, so it would be hard to say he didn't know something about them. But it's the digital age - Anonymous is the name of the game and Nicky's smart enough to have held his source at arms length for precisely that reason

    (disclaimer: Nicky is a friend, mainly through his sister but, no, he didn't tell me what was in the book, the bastid)

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    The ODT reports Key as saying that it's "unlikely" he'll ask Judith Collins if she'd shifted a prisoner at Slater's request, or even whether she leaked information to Slater.

    http://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/312598/probe-hager-book-claims-fine-key

    The old 'Either I didn't know or I can't recall' trick.

    Bring on those squirrels!

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1386 posts Report Reply

  • Michael Meyers,

    Looks like 3 News has got a full 20 minutes video of an interview with Key about the book. "Nothing to see here"...

    http://www.3news.co.nz/Video-John-Key-talks-Nicky-Hagers-Dirty-Politics/tabid/1607/articleID/356848/Default.aspx

    Wellington • Since May 2014 • 56 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Keir Leslie,

    No reputable media organisation should be using him as a commentator.

    It strikes me that several news and media organisations might do a rather thorough clean out of their go-to commentators in the light of this book.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4451 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Telfar Barnard, in reply to nzlemming,

    not as yet. The hard copy wasn’t even on Potton’s website yesterday but is now, although ‘out of stock’.

    Thanks. I want to make some outraged comment about what millenium we’re in, or something, but my heart’s not in it.

    But really, if they can’t distribute the book fast enough to keep up with demand, isn’t an ebook the really obvious solution? Would also make it accessible to people like my Dad, who’s overseas, and would probably buy an e-copy if he could get one, but will instead have to wait till he gets home at the end of September, at which point he’ll probably just borrow it from the library or a friend instead; or to people who don’t live anywhere near any independent bookstores and thus have to spring for postage as well as the already high price of the book itself.

    There we go, my heart’s back in it: No ebook??? What Millenium are we in, people?!!

    ETA: I withdraw and apologise. Just had a reply from Craig Potton Publishing saying an ebook will be available from Wheelers in 24-36 hours. Turns out we are in this millenium after all. Jolly good!

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 580 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason,

    Long-time Farrar-watchers will probably concur that that was Farrar in panic mode, trying really hard to appear nonchalant.

    He needed a drink of water didn't he. Almost choking on his breath.........

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1588 posts Report Reply

  • Thomas Roberts, in reply to Lucy Telfar Barnard,

    E book? good , I was just about to scan it in and upload :-)

    Wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 2 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Keir Leslie,

    John Pagani, Stuart Nash, and Conor Roberts

    ffs

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Andre Alessi,

    I think we'll see firmer denials tomorrow, when they figure out which approach is more likely to convince supporters

    And ironically they'll pay Farrar to do the polling on that for them.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • Alan Perrott,

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 438 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Lucy Telfar Barnard,

    I suspect that producing and loading an eBook ahead of time would have been to risky as to leaks.

    Also, it's easier to suppress in some ways. Did you know Amazon can recall eBooks from anyone's device? Not sure if Wheelers can.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Andre Alessi,

    Only just catching up with this but I gather Key is accusing Hager of faking emails. Good grief.

    I've read most of the book now and I am horrified -- especially by the paid attack campaigns on public health officials and lobbyists. It's just evil.

    But it looks like they're having some success with their Kim Dotcom misdirection. So the system still works.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • pohutukawa tree, in reply to nzlemming,

    He said on Morning Report that he had extensive discussions with the person who leaked it to him, negotiating about what would be used and how, so it would be hard to say he didn't know something about them.

    It is quite straight forward these days to have extensive discussions with people who remain completely anonymous.

    Since Jul 2014 • 11 posts Report Reply

  • Keir Leslie,

    Conor Roberts is one of the good guys as well --- and he's the odd one out. Both Pagani and Nash are lower North Island, older, and wankers, whereas Roberts is Auckland/Wellington, younger, and reliable by all accounts. Ach the details are just gossip though really as far as that goes. But Nash and Pagani ffs.

    Since Jul 2008 • 1452 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Keir Leslie,

    one of the good guys

    phew

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • SteveH, in reply to Alfie,

    The ODT reports Key as saying that it’s “unlikely” he’ll ask Judith Collins if she’d shifted a prisoner at Slater’s request, or even whether she leaked information to Slater.
    ...
    The old ‘Either I didn’t know or I can’t recall’ trick.

    Another round of "hear no evil, see no evil" is surely going to be a round too many for some.

    Since Sep 2009 • 444 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to SteveH,

    Let's hope the left successfully join the dots with the PM's response to Banks.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • Conor Roberts, in reply to Keir Leslie,

    Hey - I didn't go and I wasn't aware of who else was invited.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 56 posts Report Reply

  • Keir Leslie, in reply to Conor Roberts,

    Sure --- I mean this is just petty gossip, it's not really that important, and also it's kinda invasive, sorry!

    But thank you for clarifying.

    Since Jul 2008 • 1452 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    From Kim Dotcom:

    For the record: I haven't hacked Whaleoil. I have nothing to do with Hager's book. There will be legal action against Slater & co

    Well yes. Accusing someone of hacking (a criminal offence) is libellous unless demonstrably true. It's likely Slater will have to front up in court and produce any evidence he might have.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Conor Roberts,

    thanks. I was worried my integrity-detector was faulty.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • Michael Meyers, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Only just catching up with this but I gather Key is accusing Hager of faking emails. Good grief.

    He's not quite saying that. His line is pretty consistent from what I've seen. In answering questions about the emails being faked, he's saying that Hager is "a left-wing conspiracy theorist" without a good track record. He's refuting some of the allegations in a limited way (" I'm not involved", "Mr Ede isn't [currently] involved in...", etc).

    He's making it appear that nothing is true by his limited denials and letting you draw your own conclusion that the emails must therefore be faked.

    Wellington • Since May 2014 • 56 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Alfie,

    The ODT reports Key as saying that it’s “unlikely” he’ll ask Judith Collins if she’d shifted a prisoner at Slater’s request, or even whether she leaked information to Slater.

    It's an allegation of a grievous abuse of ministerial power to help out a mate. And he declares he won't even ask?

    If he's allowed to make this a last word, I really do despair.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Michael Meyers,

    refuting

    denying.

    they're not the same thing

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Michael Meyers,

    He's making it appear that nothing is true by his limited denials

    much like Slater denying "emails" (because they're Facebook chat messages). Catch up, journos.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

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