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Hard News: Dirty Politics

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  • Sacha, in reply to izogi,

    don't forget the morris dancing. :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19264 posts Report Reply

  • Rosemary McDonald, in reply to izogi,

    Gareth Morgan and cats.

    Kinda like the problem Old McGreggor had?

    Waikato, or on the road • Since Apr 2014 • 1253 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to izogi,

    distraction from the actual party

    The snippet on RNZ I heard, he says he has done the numbers on a UBI and how it would work if introduced by him? I guess. But then I read he compares himself to D Trump ( in the sense of anti-establishment) in the NZ Harold ... Okay...

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1608 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to andin,

    But then I read he compares himself to D Trump ( in the sense of anti-establishment) in the NZ Harold…

    It’s a juxtaposition funny. The genuine philanthropist and the other character.

    Regarding the cats, we joined the Morgan’s Halo project which is about protecting native birds from predictors. Halo wants more people who live in close proximity to wild live sanctuarys such as the one in Karori, to be reminded that cats predate on native wildlife. Morgan said he would like to see cats managed in a similar way to the way we manage dogs. I don’t think he ever said he hates cats.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3682 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to andin,

    But then I read he compares himself to D Trump

    That was unexpected. I caught the live stream from outside parliament, via rnz. At first I thought various journos were trying to goad him into a Trump comparison (just another distraction to make it more about him than about what he was doing). When I heard bits again later it sounded as if he proposed it himself.

    Morgan's far more sophisticated than Donald Trump and I don't understand why he'd want to associate himself at all. His manner obviously irritates, though.

    Morgan said he would like to see cats managed in a similar way to the way we manage dogs. I don’t think he ever said he hates cats.

    Neither. Not that what he's actually said really makes a difference.

    I also joined the Crofton Downs Halo project, which he's been subsidising, and have recently started walking trap lines around here. I don't agree with the guy about everything, but I've developed some respect for how he likes to do stuff. It's not traditional by many people's standards, however.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 989 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    encourage farming kiwis for their meat.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2660 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    For the record, Nicky Hager has been awarded interim legal costs of $232,672.78 against the Police, relating to their obtaining a warrant illegally to search his home as part of the Dirty Politics witchhunt.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1285 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    Reverberations of Dirty Politics continues now that Judith Collins is standing as leader of the National Party. Interview with Nicky Hager on Morning Report today.
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/201826737/collins-a-risky-choice-as-pm-nicky-hager

    Incidentally, in public talks following the publication of his book in 2014, he predicted that John Key would walk away from NZ politics before too long (and be soon forgotten).

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3060 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    And if you really want to throw up in your cornflakes, have a listen to Collins squirming out of her murky past. She maintains she’s as pure as the driven snow and that Nicky Hager lied about her. Uh huh.

    I found myself wishing that Kim Hill was conducting that interview.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1285 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    The National Party and friends assumed that the revelations from Dirty Politics would quietly go away after the 2014 election. Some of us knew they wouldn't. As Nicky Hagar says, the verified information is still out there for anyone who cares to track down the book. Look at this thread. Almost 500,000 views and still going.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3060 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    Might have contributed to Collins not finding favour with the National caucus.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5452 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Felix Geiringer has confirmed that Nicky Hager’s daughter has received a confidential settlement from the Police over the now disgraced Dirty Politics raid.

    Police also seized and cloned her phone and laptop just two weeks before her end-of-year university papers were due. They kept the laptop for more than four months, Geiringer said.

    What nice people. However there’s no mention of any heads rolling at Police HQ.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1285 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    David Fisher follows up on the Todd Barclay story (discussed earlier in this thread). You'll recall that Barclay was accused of recording private conversations which led to the resignation of three of his staff.

    It seems that Barclay "refused to co-operate with detectives" and was never interviewed about the matter. It appears that the 10 month investigation has now been shelved, with Police citing "insufficient evidence".

    Does the former tobacco lobbyist really qualify as a prominent New Zealander? Or perhaps he's just a right Dipton.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1285 posts Report Reply

  • linger, in reply to Alfie,

    Or a "Dipton something"?

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1586 posts Report Reply

  • Amanda Wreckonwith,

    So Kim Dotcom knew about the contents of the Hager book a day in advance of everyone else?

    Since Sep 2012 • 171 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    Before it slips down the media memory hole with John Key's departure, let's just remember who vilified who, and the final, undisputed outcome:

    Jon Stephenson was vindicated, John Key chucked muck

    It's just something to bear in mind as the smear machine starts up again today, with predictable (and largely unchallenged) attacks on the authors (see most media outlets, next 48 hours).

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1089 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    The government will use blogs run by sycophants like Farrar (who this morning is running a revolting and tasteless line of "nothing to see here, war is hell, civilians die, it was only six look how many died in ww2" argument) to attack the authors while invoking state secrecy and a blanket refusal to discuss the issue.

    They'll probably get away with it, given that years of ANZAC day propaganda has indoctrinated the general public to view our tin pot army as fearless and chanceless warriors, rather than the panic stricken muppets we once saw on telly blasting away from their LAV at nothing in particular in an ambush.

    The only thing that would blow the government and defence force out of the water would be if one of the un-named SAS troopers the authors say helped them came forward to publically support them.

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2057 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to simon g,

    It’s just something to bear in mind as the smear machine starts up again today, with predictable (and largely unchallenged) attacks on the authors (see most media outlets, next 48 hours).

    Paula Bennett became rattled and elected to take the low ground on Morning Report today by accusing Nicky Hager of being a "left wing conspiracy theorist".

    In the face of what appears to be well-researched evidence that NZ troops engaged in war crimes, the Nats have chosen to double down, close ranks and follow their now familiar "nothing to see here" line.

    Morals only apply to poor people.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1285 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    At a public meeting after the publication of Dirty Politics, Nicky Hager predicted that John Key would get bored with politics and walk away. He was right there, too.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3060 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to Alfie,

    Paula Bennett became rattled and elected to take the low ground on Morning Report today by accusing Nicky Hager of being a “left wing conspiracy theorist”.

    She seemed to back the truck up on that straight after saying it. She probably had an old set of mirrrors in place when her smoke puffed out.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3682 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Alfie,

    Paula Bennett became rattled and elected to take the low ground on Morning Report today by accusing Nicky Hager of being a “left wing conspiracy theorist”.

    By virtue of her accusation she outs herself as a 'Right Wing Conspiracy Theorist' - which is apparently an okay thing to be....

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7274 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    I also loved the comments on Morning Report from people saying that Nicky Hager always puts these books out in Election Years - like it was a bad thing, not the brilliant marketing and a vital contribution to the 'national conversation' that it is....

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7274 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    By virtue of her accusation she outs herself as a ‘Right Wing Conspiracy Theorist’ – which is apparently an okay thing to be….

    Which ties in nicely with her warning to Jacinda Ardern on The Nation last week that she shouldn't aim for the moral high ground, because "I've been there and it isn't very nice."

    Bennett's own words confirm that she's more comfortable maintaining the moral low ground. In other words, cesspit politics.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1285 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    Dirty Politics rears its ugly head again somone seems to be using Netsafe and the Harmful Digital Communications Act to whitewash the past

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2519 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell, in reply to Paul Campbell,

    That complaint looks odd. Why send a complaint about The Daily Blog to The Standard? Why does the person who sent the email not have a surname, or indicate their position in Netsafe?

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 406 posts Report Reply

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