Hard News: Dotcom: Further news of the unlikely
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
If he’s so keen to splash his money around, perhaps he could pay some to the out-of-pocket investors in letsbuyit.com
Why? if I were to buy shares in a company called “letsbuyit.com” JUST because some guy said he was going to throw money at it I would consider myself stupid, gullable and greedy and deserve to lose my “Hard Earned Money”.
I just can’t find sympathy for those wanting to make a fast buck, money should be payment for work done and value realised. imho. -
Steve, Sophie - boiler rooms (effectively what he was doing) are illegal in some (most) countries. Even in neocon captial-friendly countries like the US where they are technically not illegal, they certainly violate things like the National Association of Securities Dealers' rules of fair practice. It's usually VERY difficult to get convictions for the sort of things he was convicted for (that's convicted, not charged), like insider trading (which is illegal for good reasons). Have a think about how bang-to-rights he must have been for that to stick.
The subsequent businesses he built using that money, and which he made most of his current dosh from, were also (to put it mildly) somewhat questionable in their methods, certainly testing the elasticity of the law to breaking point and beyond.
I don't think he deserves the demonisation and shit-slinging he gets from 'the right'. He clearly rattling their cage anf they're reacting to that. But my enemy's enemy =/= my friend.
Your view, my view, but personally, I wouldn't trust him to lie straight in bed.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
I wouldn’t trust him to lie straight in bed.
I think I would still trust him over Key. Key would never side with the "underclass"
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
King Kapisi - adding a bit of gummi bear to Dotcom's machine-made musical Würstchen.
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Dotcom announced today that Glenn Greenwald will be in attendance for the dropping of his September bombshell.
This makes things rather interesting, not least because it guarantees global attention for whatever the bombshell is.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
This makes things rather interesting, not least because it guarantees global attention for whatever the bombshell is.
True - and it also raises the stakes significantly if this "bombshell" doesn't do the damage Dotcom thinks it does. To put it quite bluntly, nobody at The Guardian gets to vote in New Zealand.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
To put it quite bluntly, nobody at The Guardian gets to vote in New Zealand.
True. And I think saving it up till Election Day -5 is an act of hubris.
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Just inserting a note of caution boys and girls.
I have done a rough count of the number of times the words "bomb" and "bombshell" have appeared in the course of this discussion.
I think, perhaps, that both "bomb" and "bombshell" are words that just might trigger some security alert. Some bored GCSB drone with nothing better to do.....
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Some bored GCSB drone
My ears are burning...
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Sacha, in reply to
Greenwald is more likely to be a trigger word
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
Some bored GCSB drone with nothing better to do…..
Oh. silly Rosemary . Wha? Lil' ol' Public Address? ;)
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If the GCSB wants to read my spam, they have my commiserations in advance.
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Rob Stowell, in reply to
I am thinking of voting for someone to represent me in parliament.
None of the above want to do that, apart from the GreensBack in 1999 I watched Nandor and Sue on TV on election night, and thought: YES! Someone in parliament who actually represents values and ideas and policies I broadly agree with - who look and talk like Kiwis I know.
That's valuable itself. Having people who represent you in govt would be even better :) -
Stephen Judd, in reply to
If the GCSB wants to read my spam, they have my commiserations in advance.
That's funny, but the worrying scenario is that they* might read everything else too. From everybody. Or worse, not read it right now, but store it for later analysis, perhaps in the event that it is useful to publicly discredit you or recast an innocent remark as evidence in your trial. And the knowledge that they could do so is something of an impediment to activism of any kind.
*they could be another member of the Five Eyes network acting on their behalf.
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I think Johnathan Coleman just shattered my bullshit detector. Should I send him a bill for repairs?
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linger, in reply to
Coleman just shattered my bullshit detector.
shatted it, more like? *klaxon sounds* overload! overload! core dump in progress …
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TracyMac, in reply to
I would much rather that people vote for the IP than not at all. And personally, despite my thinking that Dotcom is just about creating his own publicity machine for his immigration woes, I actually have nothing against the aims of the party at all.
You're right that they're aiming for a tranche of people that Labour is not seeming to reach at all. I just wish that Dotcom would keep his own head below the parapet, and if he has something important to release, then release it. A big fail for the big reveal would likely put off a lot of those voters who would consider the IP - if it's a big embarrassment, many would stay away in droves. That being said, if it's some Snowden-type revelations about what this govt has been up to - and not just about Dotcom's immigration woes and the disgraceful raid - I'd not be too inclined to shoot the messenger.
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
Yeh, I get the general feeling that the Big Reveal is going to be double or quits for InterMana.
Double is the unlikely possibility that InterMana will manage to pull a Beppe Grillo, or more realistically at least keep its head above water. Quits is the big embarrassment you mention.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
but that KDC has an unhealthily amount of influence.
When questioned about that on BFM last week, he stated if he had wanted to try influence the party, he could have drip fed them money . Instead he gave them a lump sum and introduced the 2 Parties. His belief was that the problems this country has are social problems and Mana understands that. That and the obvious, getting rid of National.
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