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Hard News: Meanwhile back at the polls

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  • steven crawford, in reply to Pete George,

    The next few polls should give us an idea of the impact of Internet-MANA who could take some Green support, but they also make the Greens look comparatively less scary

    Scary? What kind of chicken shit do you have to be made of.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4327 posts Report Reply

  • Mr Mark, in reply to Andrew Robertson,

    Cheers, Andrew. Appreciate you going to the trouble to clarify things.

    Wellington • Since Dec 2009 • 127 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to Pete George,

    What Greens might benefit most from is if the Labour vote collapses as it did for National in 2002. But that won’t help the chances of a left leaning coalition.

    If there was no alternative, I would vote Labour over the Greens this election, because Labour is good at building up bureaucratic infrastructure. Which is really important for both environmental management and economics. And the Greens would benefit from that.

    That would be my strategic vote. But I don’t vote strategically. I vote to be represented in parliament. So if you think the Greens are scary but mana/ internet are really scary, I will like totally freak you out with ideas like using a spanner as a hammer in the work place. Or operating a bandsaw when I’m wearing my pajamas.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4327 posts Report Reply

  • James, in reply to Andrew Robertson,

    Should it worry us when a statistician says he's seen something happen

    more times than I can count

    New Zealand • Since Feb 2007 • 34 posts Report Reply

  • Andrew Robertson, in reply to James,

    When he or she is referring to media reports, probably not.

    Wellington • Since Apr 2014 • 65 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    ...one of them is dead

    A fall in the House of Usher?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7889 posts Report Reply

  • Sanya Baker, in reply to Grant Taylor,

    If Colin Craig manages an electorate "accommodation" I wouldn't see his entry to Parliament as anything other than buying his way in - he certainly purchased most of the media attention he has garnered over the last 6 years with his own personal fortune.

    Tamaki Makaurau • Since Dec 2011 • 10 posts Report Reply

  • Tim Michie, in reply to Sanya Baker,

    I'm encouraged by Craig's lack of confidence he could win by virtue of his own campaign and policies. National looked wary of these deals and I hope this prevails and Craig is correct.

    Auckward • Since Nov 2006 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Roger Lacey, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    I wonder if Roy Morgan
    and Val Morgan are related?

    How about Captain Morgan?

    Whatakataka Bay Surf Club… • Since Apr 2008 • 148 posts Report Reply

  • Pete George, in reply to Tim Michie,

    Craig may not get a lot of confidence from Key if his public statemenst are all there is to go on.

    Asked whether he was willing still to do an electorate deal for Craig, Key said “he hasn’t approached me”, but believed Craig was not seeking such an arrangement, citing public comments earlier this year.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/coat-tail-deals-few-weeks-away-says-key-bd-157437

    And Key said any announcement on possible party accommodations was "a few weeks away". That's getting close to the election for Craig to find out what electorate he might stand in.

    Dunedin • Since Dec 2011 • 139 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to Roger Lacey,

    I wonder if Roy Morgan
    and Val Morgan are related?

    How about Captain Morgan?

    I see you're keeping with the spirit of Ian's humour.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Peter Green,

    I need to edgeler this bit

    I suspect "edgeler" will be in the running for WOTY for 2014

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to steven crawford,

    Scary? What kind of chicken shit do you have to be made of.

    +100 Score, Stephen! :-)

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    A fall in the House of Usher?

    Russell, we need a "LOL" button...

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Williams is a classic rent-a-quote. He’ll fire out inane press releases and respond to journalists’ calls even when he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    Sorry to stray from the original topic, but this story from The Press this morning makes me wonder what's going on even more. Specifically --- "a joint research project by the Taxpayers Union and Fairfax Media".

    There seems to be more of a relationship happening there than a simple "please comment" type of thing.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1139 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to izogi,

    Libertarian lobbyists equating performance with not spending, demanding asset sales - hardly news by now, you'd think. Being able to subsidise struggling media organisations must be an enticing enough carrot to excuse the slant, I guess.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to izogi,

    this story from The Press this morning makes me wonder what’s going on even more. Specifically — “a joint research project by the Taxpayers Union and Fairfax Media”.

    A bit more depth here

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    Thanks for that.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1139 posts Report Reply

  • David Hood, in reply to David Hood,

    My opinion is that it is an outlier poll, we will know in another 2 weeks- I thought it looked to much like the random sample happened to hit a lot of National voters and few Green voters- I just didn’t see the Greens doing anything in those two weeks that would have caused them to lose one third of their support base.

    And I stand by my opinion of two weeks ago, though I am sure the latest Roy Morgan will provoke nowhere near the discussion the previous one did.

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1445 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to David Hood,

    Yes, what's it at now? 49.5% Nat, 28% Lab? But the buzz has shifted to the Stuff poll putting the Nats on 56% and Labour on 23%. To get a discrepancy of 6.5% in two polls around the same period tells me that they either aren't using anywhere near the same methodology, or something very unlikely randomly happened. I guess the former is more likely.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10641 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Pete George,

    Shearer looked far from Prime Ministerial.

    That is purely because we, as New Zealanders, have come to expect our PM to be a show pony that drinks beersies at barbies, takes the piss out of serious issues and thinks we are not interested in anything other than money.
    I think Shearer would have made a great PM, seriously statesman like, concerned, pragmatic and with the kind of empathy that is needed in a good leader. Unfortunately the Media love to showboat and prefer bread and circuses to real leadership.
    Sad but true.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to steven crawford,

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    I will like totally freak you out with ideas like using a spanner as a hammer in the work place. Or operating a bandsaw when I’m wearing my pajamas.

    Or This???
    And they say the Greens are scary
    Argggghhh

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    This???

    That's the Maculating Man.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4327 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    going gangly busters…

    Or This??? …
    Argggghhh

    which encourages logic like this…

    Laurence Day has given $175,000 to the Conservative Party “and there’ll be more to come”. The cashed-up Hamilton businessman is furious that Kim Dotcom is trying to buy political influence in New Zealand. So Day is putting his money where his mouth is – and fighting back….
    The Kim Dotcom thing “really got up my nose”, he says.
    “There’s a guy who has a single axe to grind because he tried to, I feel, bribe his way into New Zealand by buying politicians and that didn’t work, they went doggo on him.

    That adds up,
    dislike someone ‘buying’ political favour,
    then go and support the latest self-funded vanity party that has bought itself into existence…

    I bet Craig wishes he was channelling an inner Rimmer!

    (…and had even an iota of the appeal Peter Cook exudes…)


    and here’s the reality of binding referenda…


    and meanwhile the other parties struggle to catch up…

    Who says you couldn’t write this stuff!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7889 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Laurence Day has given $175,000 to the Conservative Party “and there’ll be more to come”. The cashed-up Hamilton businessman is furious that Kim Dotcom is trying to buy political influence in New Zealand…

    No, he, like a lot of New Zealanders, is furious about Maoris and other less privileged people, getting as much opportunity as himself.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4327 posts Report Reply

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