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Hard News: Privacy and the Public Interest

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  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to UglyTruth,

    Parke's recreation...

    the golden rule of statutory interpretation
    (Baron Parke’s rule)

    aaah!
    The original Well Read Baron!
    Lord Wensleydale himself...
    Say Cheese!

    Perhaps of passing interest:
    Baron Parke Rises From the Dead

    Other dramatis personae:
    The Black Stone
    or is it Blackstone
    more likely Bill Blackstone
    his ratio lives on:

    the principle that it "is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer".

    all interesting stuff...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • UglyTruth, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Unfortunately I hit the paywall for "Baron Parke Rises From the Dead".

    The thing that I really like about the golden rule is that it refutes the mantra that statute law overrides common law. Also, as can be seen from his history, Parke didn't approve of parliament fucking with the common law.

    After musing the etymological fallacy, I'm of the opinion that it's of more value as a smokescreen for inconvenient truths. Take "nice" for example - "she's a nice girl", or "he's a nice guy". The thing that sets nice guys apart from good guys is that good guys are true to their values while nice guys get pushed around by bad guys whe know that they're only placaters. The etymology of "nice" gives us a clue:

    nice (adj.)
    late 13c., "foolish, stupid, senseless," from Old French nice (12c.) "careless, clumsy; weak; poor, needy; simple, stupid, silly, foolish," from Latin nescius "ignorant, unaware," literally "not-knowing," from ne- "not" (see un-) + stem of scire "to know" (see science). "The sense development has been extraordinary, even for an adj." [Weekley] -- from "timid" (pre-1300); to "fussy, fastidious" (late 14c.); to "dainty, delicate" (c.1400); to "precise, careful" (1500s, preserved in such terms as a nice distinction and nice and early); to "agreeable, delightful" (1769); to "kind, thoughtful" (1830).

    http://etymonline.com/index.php?term=nice

    New Zealand • Since Sep 2014 • 89 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Stewart,

    No way is the nationwide median house price $500k. It might be that in & around Auckland but not ‘down country’.

    I wasn't actually talking about the median price - a median can't be used in the way I used it, to find a total value. I meant the mean, and that is higher than the median by a reasonable amount. Median is a better measure of central tendency in this case, but I'm wasn't trying to make a claim about that, I was just trying to find the total house value which a mean is useful for. But I'm not going to niggle any of this - even if I used 375k as the multiplier, it would still make the point about just how much of our capital is sunk into this class of investment - it's almost a different order of magnitude to anything else.

    BTW not arguing against a CGT as I think it is an excellent idea and long overdue.

    I got that. And it is scary just how skewed the median is from the mean, it's a very important point when trying to understand our property ownership inequity.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • Chris Waugh, in reply to UglyTruth,

    Insisting on dragging words back to definitions that have not been in use for a very long time is a form of redfining language. Please stop.

    You personally find secular oaths repugnant. That's your problem. Everybody else sees nothing hypocritical in swearing an oath that does not reference a deity. Why? Because society has moved on, and as society has developed, so has the language.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart, in reply to Chris Waugh,

    Insisting on dragging words back to definitions that have not been in use for a very long time is a form of redefining language. Please stop.

    This is also the third thread he's tried to drag this increasingly irrelevant troll on to. If people could just go on not engaging, that'd be great.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Chris Waugh, in reply to Emma Hart,

    You're right, and that's the position I was in yesterday - just watching with morbid fascination wondering when, exactly, somebody was going to call 'time' on this. But that comment of his bugged me. Back to exercising self-control. Sorry.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • UglyTruth, in reply to Emma Hart,

    This is also the third thread he’s tried to drag this increasingly irrelevant troll on to. If people could just go on not engaging, that’d be great.

    I ws bnnd frm Th Stndrd fr tlkng bt ths. Smlr cntxt t, tlkng bt hw sttt lw s nt th lw f th lnd.

    New Zealand • Since Sep 2014 • 89 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Ah, the ritual disemvowelling has begun!

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to nzlemming,

    a fittingly olde-fashynd remedy

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to UglyTruth,

    ...sttt lw s nt th lw f th lnd

    a land of consonant sorrow?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • FletcherB,

    a land of consonant sorrow?

    Dear Mr Dalziel...
    I just want to say that you and your constant puns are one of the absolute best reasons for hanging around here at Public Address...

    Many people around here are funny, (I try my own hand at times), but you Sir, are a constant source of mirth, while remaining pithily on topic, and drawing from a wide source of references for you riffs...

    Applause, Applause, Applause....

    P.S. I love you.

    West Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 893 posts Report Reply

  • startswithj, in reply to Dismal Soyanz,

    So Slater is a political vehicle, bribed, fed information used to facilitate certain perceptions and results for monetary gain, is completely bias, and is also a journalist.
    If the judiciary decided that, the standard of NZ news reporting is a bit of a worry.

    Auckland • Since Sep 2014 • 2 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to FletcherB,

    Applause….

    Shucks, thanks for that ArrowmakerB.
    I'm all aquiver with delight
    but humbly...

    Truth be told I just run a flock of 64 puns
    by rotating, recycling & reconfiguring
    usually one of them will play in
    any given situation, every
    little thing is ductile
    when massaging
    the message,
    & torquing
    the talk.

    tune
    in

    o
    u
    t

    :- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • Trevor Nicholls,

    Two eyes good, five eyes bad

    Eyes on New Zealand

    Thanks Russell for the link

    Wellington, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 324 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to izogi,

    Was the High Court able to consider Cameron Slater’s leaked mailbox in this decision?

    Just reading the judgement:

    [3] Recently, some time after the hearing, Mr Blomfield has sought to produce further evidence, arising from the publication of the book Dirty Politics by Nicky Hager, and various email exchanges.
    [4] I have declined to grant leave for the introduction of this further evidence on the basis that it is hearsay or privileged.

    So, no, even though Blomfield tried.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Trevor Nicholls,

    Its great to have fresh media eyes on this issue. GIS article is well written.

    "New Zealand is a small country, with a population of less than five million, situated in the far reaches of the southern hemisphere....

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Trevor Nicholls,

    Defenders and enablers everywhere:

    “Innocent people have nothing to worry about.”

    Privacy and secrecy are not the same thing.

    Cory Doctorow

    Wellington, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 324 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Attachment

    Yes,

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to nzlemming,

    ...and Key does seem to have a dose of the 'fear'
    - otherwise why would he lash out so...?

    It's like the 'Evening Noose' not the news each night
    tightening, tightening, tightening...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

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