more prevalent and more dangerous than you think
The same can be said of stupidity
This is a photo of Albert Einstein, his wife and Gene Dennis – a well known American psychic. The photo was taken in 1932. Einstein told the New Republic that:
[Dennis] told me things no one possibly could know, things on which I have been working, and she demonstrated to me that she has a power to do things I cannot at this time explain. Now, I must tell some of my colleagues about this. It was miraculous indeed.
Maybe you’re right Andin. The world’s not a perfect place.
There shouldn't be a Chinese military base in the South Pacific.
The near death experience is one of the most famous and compelling lines of evidence for the ongoing existence of the human spirit. Modern interest in the phenomenon was rekindled by Raymond Moody’s 1975 bestseller Life After Life. In the course of collating and summarising around 150 NDEs, Moody writes:
What has amazed me since the beginning of my interest are the great similarities in the reports despite the fact that they come from people of highly varied religious, social and educational backgrounds. (p.24)
The question naturally arises whether any evidence of the reality of near-death experiences be acquired independently of the descriptions of the experiences themselves. Many persons report being out of their bodies for extended periods and witnessing many events in the physical world during the interlude. Can any of these reports be checked out with other witnesses who were known to be present, or with later confirming events, and thus be corroborated?
In quite a few instances, the somewhat surprising answer to this question is, “yes”. Furthermore, the description of events witnessed while out of the body tend to check out fairly well. (p.64)
The book is available on digital loan from Auckland Public Libraries if you’re interested.
An extensive literature has developed around this subject and you can find a range of material in the usual places, but this is an 2016 IANDS conference presentation by Laurin Bellg, an ICU physician who has incorporated this aspect of her patients’ experiences into her practice.
This isn’t really a joke. Don’t get involved in the occult.
The near death experience is one of the most famous and compelling lines of evidence for the ongoing existence of the human spirit.
I wouldn’t go as far as calling it scientific evidence though. A general anaesthetic is a near death experience and not many people report anything apart from when occasionally, the anaesthetist goofs off.
I’ve had a few near death experiences such as y’do at sea. And yes I did see god. That’s until I was depleted of adrenaline, slightly hypothermic and tired of it all. I have read that deep hypothermia takes people to a whole other level of near death which I’m yet to encounter. So I’m keeping an open mind about the after life. Or more applicable, the in between life and death.
I wouldn’t go as far as calling it scientific evidence though.
Like many of the researchers in this field, Moody is a doctor, but the questions around how you collate personal experiences to create data are interesting ones. While Moody states that the information he’s collected isn’t offered as proof of a particular interpretation I think he’d say he’s collected important evidence.
There are some patient accounts of veridical perception provided in the book. NDE patients often report seeing their body from above and have described conversations and events that took place while they were unconscious or clinically dead and have given their doctors detailed accounts of the medical procedures that were used to revive them.
I’ve had a few near death experiences such as y’do at sea.
So I’m keeping an open mind about the after life
I think that’s a pretty sensible stance.
It’s a bit to cold and miserable here in Wellington today for me to delve to far into finding out what being guillotined might feel like. But I did wonder if the decapitated persons would know what just happened:
The answer, horribly, is ‘Not only is it possible, but it’s medically proven.’ Debate on the subject raged ever since Charlotte Corday – the assassin of Jean-Paul Marat – was guillotined in 1793. The executioner’s assistant, Francois le Gros, lifted her head by the hair, and slapped it on both cheeks. Eyewitnesses reported that the face took on an angry expression, and the cheeks visibly flushed.
The last person to be executed in France was Hamida Djandoubi, who was guillotined on 10 September 1977
There could also be the time slowing down affect to consider. But our brains can only crunch data as fast as it’s potassium processes can handle, so thankfully not as much life is going to flash past in a few nano seconds, as it would if we where electronic, like a smart arsed phone.
time slowing down effect
N.B. the brain does not process information any faster in moments of stress than otherwise. Rather, our sense of time passing is distorted after the fact by the amount of processing time devoted to the moment afterwards (for obvious reasons, we spend more subsequent processing time on more stressful moments).
delve too far into finding out what being guillotined might feel like
I’m not sure how to approach that. Have a look at the video if you’re interested in learning about people’s experiences of veridical perception. It indirectly addresses the point I think you’re making.