OnPoint by Keith Ng

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OnPoint: The Whaledump Saga: Scooby-Doo Edition

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  • DPF,

    A fascinating article. You should write it up as a book :-)

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 78 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    Is what CS was asking / paying for is not illegal?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1645 posts Report Reply

  • Johnny Canuck,

    make sense of this whole fucking mess

    One thing's for sure, PC Plod will never make sense of it. Seeking and serving search warrants against journalists at the behest of aggrieved National party politicians is one thing. But making sense of techno-blather between bloggers and hackers is well beyond the capability of Her Majesty's Constabulary.

    Vancouver BC • Since Feb 2013 • 25 posts Report Reply

  • HORansome,

    Well, it's nice to know my work on the Ben Rachinger material has been basically vindicated; I pointed out that the timeline Ben has presented has never actually made sense, and showed he was still working for/scamming Slater well after he claimed he wasn't.

    Tāmaki Makaurau • Since Sep 2008 • 441 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Sibly,

    A lot to take in...but doesn't this basically prove that CS was commissioning a hack on the Standard? Isn't that illegal?!?

    Since Jan 2010 • 6 posts Report Reply

  • Gary Elshaw,

    That log from December 19 looks like it has many holes in it Keith. And thank you for this article, it vindicates a lot of suspicions.

    Apia, Samoa • Since Mar 2011 • 22 posts Report Reply

  • Keith Ng, in reply to Don Christie,

    Well, the hacking of The Standard is pretty illegal. But beyond that it's a little hazy. Ben claims to have hacked my email, for example, and Slater didn't explicitly ask for it... so, I dunno. Ask a lawyer.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 543 posts Report Reply

  • Keith Ng, in reply to Mark Sibly,

    TBF, *Ben* actually proved this from the get-go.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 543 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Sibly, in reply to Keith Ng,

    Really? I was under the impression there was no real evidence of what went on, therefore no prosecution (but I haven't been following all that closely...). Perhaps this changes that? Or perhaps it was only "pretty illegal"!

    Since Jan 2010 • 6 posts Report Reply

  • stephen clover, in reply to Gary Elshaw,

    That log from December 19 looks like it has many holes in it

    Indeed it does – it’s missing at the very least these lines (marked w/ *) and who knows what else:

    19 Dec 14 12:24:50 – CS: Yes…john key lost my respect
    ...
    *19 Dec 14 12:25:nn – BR: Ewww bro she’s like 45. I’m 26
    *19 Dec 14 12:25:nn – CS: Send me one
    *19 Dec 14 12:26:nn – BR: <image>
    19 Dec 14 12:26:43 – BR: Shit like that
    *19 Dec 14 12:nn:nn – BR: <unreadable message>
    ...
    19 Dec 14 12:42:42 – CS: How unethical

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report Reply

  • tussock,

    So, is the real story here that politicians have been blackmailing senior NZ journalists by having the spooks hack their private communications and search for nude photos.

    Because, well, isn't exactly that why we got that new law to make sure all our ISPs and Telcos had to install pre-hacked US hardware, under firm guidance of the local spooks, and not the good Chinese stuff instead? And now we want another law to ban encryption, because Paris.

    Since Nov 2006 • 602 posts Report Reply

  • Keith Ng, in reply to tussock,

    What? No! Nobody's been hacked here (except Slater, by Rawshark). Those pictures were *sent* by Rachinger to Slater, and by Slater (directly or indirectly) to the other blog.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 543 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Some wide-ranging discussion on the Beige Badger's blog, featuring Ben himself and a range of refugees from slaterland

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19573 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Mark Sibly,

    therefore no prosecution

    ahaha

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19573 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Keith Ng,

    Those pictures were *sent* by Rachinger to Slater

    And we have never seen any accountability for that.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19573 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Withers, in reply to Keith Ng,

    Who is the "funder" Slater refers to as the person requesting the hack on The Standard?

    Auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 312 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Ahahahahahahahahahaha!

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2909 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    I don't give Pete George credit for much, but this line is a pearler:

    Whale Oil seems to have well and truly jumped the Rawshark

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2909 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Keith Ng,

    What? No! Nobody’s been hacked here (except Slater, by Rawshark). Those pictures were *sent* by Rachinger to Slater, and by Slater (directly or indirectly) to the other blog.

    How Rachinger got them is another matter, but no, it wasn't via spooks.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22584 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    There was a weird thing about that time when Slater claimed that there was an insidious evil left wing plot that he'd uncovered to drive him insane .... is all this made up stuff what he was rabbiting on about? seems what was reallly happening was that he was being trolled into insanity by his own people knowing he was a soft touch if you fed his paranoia

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2590 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Paul Campbell,

    Yeah, a lot of what he said at that time takes on a different light now.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22584 posts Report Reply

  • Raymond A Francis,

    Interesting but as always when dealing with these clowns (and doesn't this prove what clowns they are) we are not getting the full story
    Missing log entries, cover ups of journalists and on it goes
    Interestingly the possible name of Slaters funder has been mentioned on another blog
    I don't want to drop Russell into legal problems, so no clues
    More mystery
    Oh all right, read PG's blog if you want more

    45' South • Since Nov 2006 • 575 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Bad couple of years for Slater...fucks The New Zealand Truth newspaper to death, is hacked by Rawshark, takes out Judith Collins, gets busted for contempt of court, is cold shouldered by Key, knocked out by Jessie Ryder, and punked by an internet con-man. How far down can this losing streak go?

    Did I miss much?

    Thanks for all this Keith. It is yet another confirmation about what a joke Slater and his world is. I don't think I'm going to pay it another thought.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10579 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Hooton,

    Just to make sure I fully understand this.

    When a widely respected former governor of the Reserve Bank and more narrowly respected leader of the opposition, Don Brash, made a complaint to the police over the potential burglary or hacking of his office and girlfriend's home following The Hollow Men, the police did absolutely nothing for more than a year, bizarrely even citing the impact on their resources of an offshore Apec conference as a reason why ...

    But when a blogger, Cameron Slater, makes a similar complaint to the police about Dirty Politics based on information from Ben Rachinger (!), the police pretty much immediately raid the author of the book's house?

    The only reason I can think of for the different response is that the police, being a very hierarchical organisation, and respectful of authority, acted in both cases on what they believed the prime minister of the day might want (which is not to accuse either Helen Clark or John Key of direct interference but to say the police made political assumptions.

    I hope someone could point to another (less concerning reason) complainant Slater got better service from the police than complainant Brash? Because, with all due respect to the host here, the alleged hacking of a blogger's server for political reasons is not as serious a matter constitutionally than the alleged interference for political reasons of the leader of the opposition's private political communications.

    It would seem to me, that, at best, the two complaints should be treated the same but that if one was to be privileged as a higher priority for police resources it would be the Brash one.

    Auckland • Since Aug 2007 • 192 posts Report Reply

  • chris, in reply to Matthew Hooton,

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

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