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  • Sacha, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    I don’t feel comfortable (safe) knowing that discussions about the discussion are going on elsewhere.

    Me either, I’ve realised. Aspie stuff again.

    However trying to control the social environment is the wrong response for my own wellbeing. I apologise for upsetting people by doing that.

    Seeing other people do it annoys me, but that’s mine to deal with. Likewise experiencing other behaviours that trouble me. Am doing some personal work at present to more comfortably let people act out their own stuff, follow their own path through life. I’m not responsible for others, and nor them for me.

    The world is mainly beautiful.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Sacha,

    Thanks Sacha. Your responses were certainly part of the problem in the thread and I appreciate you acknowledging that.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    Interesting to see that Coke sales are in steady decline in the USA (and presumably also in NZ) which is probably why they are buying up anything that can be bottled (check the labels). Many shops and cafes seem to sell only Coke-owned beverages.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2560 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Your responses were certainly part of the problem in the thread

    Certainly were. Taking action to prevent that. It has been a reflective few weeks/days.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    Many shops and cafes seem to sell only Coke-owned beverages.

    Also workplaces and educational institutions. Chances are, if there's a Coke machine on your campus, they'll have signed an exclusive deal to exclude any other manufacturer's product.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov, in reply to Sacha,

    The world is mainly beautiful.

    Good on you Sacha, that was an inspiring post. *hugs*

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to mark taslov,

    thank you, mark

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to mark taslov,

    Thank you Mark.
    Nice to see someone take what I say on board and offer another perspective, rather than just snidely attacking or, God forbid, editing my comments….

    Your comments on tobacco as a way of gouging taxation, from a hopelessly addicted population, is a pure example of the way I see the world operating these days, exploit the weak, oh, hang on, that’s been going on a while, we should have grown out of that by now.
    But this is a gem…

    For those calling for taxation, I see this as an ideal opportunity to ask how much tax will be enough and and what point might that taxation cross the line from a reasonable measure for improving public health to cynical income generation off the back of addiction ~ with possible undesirable side effects such as losing control of supply, pricing; the market essentially.

    Very close to…

    For those calling for taxation, I see this as an ideal opportunity to ask how much tax will be enough and and what point might that taxation cross the line from a reasonable measure for improving society to cynical income generation off the back of addiction ~ with possible undesirable side effects such as losing control.
    Which is how I would have liked to put it
    ;-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to ,

    And he’s realised that the Coka Cola company has the best logistical machine

    Coca Cola would already have had a good Idea and the rest is jam..

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    or, God forbid, editing my comments

    welcome to the not-jungle

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Sacha,

    But they are my comments….
    It is actually more like the jungle in here than you would like to think.
    Not that there is anything wrong with jungles, I wouldn't want to offend anything.
    ;-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    But they are my comments….

    Yeah, but you have to go with my judgement because it’s my house. And if things are wrong it always comes back to me.

    I didn’t want to just delete the comment because it was saying something, but that one small part was going to be a problem.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    they are my comments

    nothing sacred about em. may not notice the times when mine get edited. all part of the package, Steve.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to ,

    See here the man who invented the Segway is trying to get clean water to everyone on earth.

    Given the Segway's track record - unaffordably overpriced, heavily restricted use, the guy who bought the company killed using his own product - that clean water might be a while coming.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I didn’t want to just delete the comment because it was saying something, but that one small part was going to be a problem.

    Oh, I get it.
    Sometimes it feels like people are ignoring what I say and going "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU !!!" or cutting out bits that may piss off, its a bit like talking past each other from ideological silo's......
    BOOM!

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Brent Jackson,

    Hey Steve.
    From where I'm sitting, it appears that Russell made a slight adjustment to your post so as to not inflame feelings, or offend more people. I cannot see why you continue to act as though you have incurred a great injustice. This is Russell's space, and he moderates with a gentle hand. I think he is willing to make small sacrifices for the greater good. Please don't make his life harder for him. A lot of us like Public Address, and would like it to continue.
    Regards,
    Brent.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 620 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Brent Jackson,

    Thanks Brent. I meant to reply (we're trying to put a show together right now) but that's better than I could have phrased it.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

  • Carol Stewart,

    I was about to commend Brent for his well chosen words too.

    Back to the topic: quite cool to see these community-led developments towards a healthier Aotearoa.

    Wellington • Since Jul 2008 • 828 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    The irony is not lost on me...

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • william blake,

    A final note on regulation, it may become harder with the ratification of the TPPA.

    Since Mar 2010 • 380 posts Report Reply

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