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Hard News: Music's emerging digital market

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  • chris,

    Loro adorazione è religiosa.

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report

  • recordari,

    I'm your annoying cousin.

    Hey, we have a theme song even!

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Jake Pollock,

    If you turn the iPad over, it doubles as a chopping board. True story.

    if you're making pizza, you can use it as a peel.

    Raumati South • Since Nov 2006 • 489 posts Report

  • recordari,

    Loro adorazione è religiosa.

    Darwinian, more likely.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Steve Barnes,

    The iPad will also Blend...

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • 81stcolumn,

    Because the App Store doesn't sell porny apps? Really? You might be making a bit much of one phrase ("freedom from porn") in a personal email to a punter. It's not that unreasonable to cite that as a selling point on a device kids will use.

    But I do find his other comments add a more revealing context;

    'By the way, what have you done that is so great? Do you create anything or just criticize others work and belittle their motivations?'

    which was how he finished that piece of discourse.

    Which led me to comment in my blog:

    Over the years I have been told;

    You can’t be creative – you don’t own a Mac

    You’re not a serious educator – you don’t own a Mac

    You gotta be a music pirate because you don’t own an iPod (WTF !)

    I wait with interest for the day someone calls me a pervert because I don’t use an Apple branded product and live in the Job’s endorsed, walled garden.

    All true, and I don’t get this type of commentary from Linux users.

    But I'm not going to be hating on Steve for making an appliance that just works, and defending that just-works status.

    And if I could believe that the scope of the issue was limited to devices that 'just worked' I wouldn’t be hating either. But when a senior learning advisor in a University cannot be distinguished from an Apple salesman, I do think we may have gone beyond "just works".

    Nawthshaw • Since Nov 2006 • 790 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    I thought the National Library (maybe Turnbull or Hocken) archived all NZ releases (and ephemera) - might be a simple, and supportive, step for them to make that available somehow - perhaps along the NZ film/on screen model...

    Yes they do, but I'm talking of something more than that, an archive which co-ordinates the digitalization of the audio past (which too is partially being done by another agency), that brings together the graphics, the label data, the band information, the release schedules, the press releases, the touring schedules, the cultural aspects of the music industry, much of which is disappearing at an enormous rate.

    And then making that available to the public as NZ on Screen is doing with video. Just keeping the records in a room is a start but not enough.

    I know the number of people that come to my site because the bits and pieces, like the Zodiac data, are not available anywhere else. There is so much that needs documenting but nobody is really doing it.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Rob Stowell,

    an archive which co-ordinates the digitalization of the audio past.... then making that available to the public

    would be a marvellous thing- but a copyright nightmare, eh?

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2120 posts Report

  • George Darroch,

    an archive which co-ordinates the digitalization of the audio past.... then making that available to the public

    would be a marvellous thing- but a copyright nightmare, eh?

    Not necessarily, if the Film Archive in Wellington, and other such institutions are anything to go by.

    WLG • Since Nov 2006 • 2264 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    would be a marvellous thing- but a copyright nightmare, eh?

    As George says, do-able, but clearly you work within the boundaries that you can negotiate and some things are easier than others. I'm not talking about uploading every record ever made in NZ but the data relating to much of that should be available if only as a central reservoir of our musical past.

    Mostly, right now, I'm just terrified, as someone who has been passionate about the music we create in NZ, and the culture around it, since I was in my early teens, about how much is disappearing and so very quickly.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Christopher Dempsey,

    My personal test of new technology for reading things, like books, like magazines, like journal articles, is the bath test: Can I read it while I'm soaking in a hot bath?

    If not, then it's no use to me.

    Parnell / Tamaki-Auckland… • Since Sep 2008 • 659 posts Report

  • Kyle Matthews,

    would be a marvellous thing- but a copyright nightmare, eh?

    Having music available would be desirable but not essential. First thing you'd want is a complete record of every piece of music released in NZ. After you've spent a couple of years compiling that, you can start trying to add digital versions to the database.

    Can I read it while I'm soaking in a hot bath?

    Well you can read an ipad in the bath. But like a book, don't drop it.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Can I read it while I'm soaking in a hot bath?
    If not, then it's no use to me.

    coming soon the iLilypad...
    (complete with transmorphed Prince...)

    I know the number of people that come to my site because the bits and pieces, like the Zodiac data, are not available anywhere else. There is so much that needs documenting but nobody is really doing it.

    I wonder is there a digital archive now, as well as hard copy archives, where Simon's excellent site and other relevant sites (Flying Nun history, TallyHo poster archive, etc) could be stored and made accessible - a governmental/cultural back up - sorry Russell I know ya didn't want that thread diversion :- )

    copyright nightmare

    Nooooo... get thee behind me Satan!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • chris,

    would be a marvellous thing- but a copyright nightmare, eh?

    put it on a Chinese server.

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report

  • Christopher Dempsey,

    Well you can read an ipad in the bath. But like a book, don't drop it.

    Is there a non-slip version? You know, something with grips to hold onto while in the bath? :)

    Parnell / Tamaki-Auckland… • Since Sep 2008 • 659 posts Report

  • George Darroch,

    Is there a non-slip version? You know, something with grips to hold onto while in the bath? :)

    You can download an app for that.

    WLG • Since Nov 2006 • 2264 posts Report

  • Islander,

    Anybody know anything about the KoBo, whitcoull's just available- here e-reader?

    I've checked the website - seems to be an exercise in enticement but doesnt answer questions like "Can you scan on your own computer titles you own and then upload them to the KoBo?" (This would be the killer ability for me...)

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    If you turn the iPad over, it doubles as a chopping board.

    So *that's* why they didn't stick a camera in it

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    Anybody know anything about the KoBo, whitcoull's just available- here e-reader?

    Funny you should ask that, Peter McLennan was just telling me this afternoon about his first encounter. Sounds like slothful performance and some poor interface choices count against it. However, maybe that's only apparent if you've used an iPad first...

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    And Hadyn Jones of Consumer magazine informally likens the Kobo experience to reading on the venerable FX82 calculator. Ah, nostalgia.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Islander,

    Hmm, thanks Sacha - if the thing actually *could* download own copies , I'd snap it up right now. The trouble with iPad/Kindle et al is - you can only download stuff that they've already uploaded (legally or not) - but not necessarily books from your own library.

    cheerz-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report

  • BenWilson,

    A lounge room device turns out to be surprisingly useful. But it's also already sorted - netbooks. I have to say that the reading experience on them is actually a lot nicer than a book shaped object, mostly because you don't have to hold them. You just sit them on your lap, and you've got both hands free for drinks and remotes, pausing only to tap a key. They're good for webcam calls too, which are finally after all these years actually worth doing. I imagine it would get tiring holding an iPad for that, if it had a camera, which it doesn't.

    There is something neat about a touch-screen, though, I could see my kids appreciating it, and myself cleaning it a lot.

    As for perching it in the kitchen, a netbook doesn't actually need perching, so isn't in any danger of slipping off the sill into sink or cookpot. But you do still need to control it like a computer, and that, I think is probably the main thing that would sell the iPad - a nice simple interface.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    I'm wondering what the new-gen hp mini convertible tablets are like - still windoze though

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • BenWilson,

    Windoze isn't nearly so annoying on netbooks...it seems to be a really cut down version, and that's just fine by me. I just want a lightweight OS that works. A lounge machine isn't really expected to crunch numbers, just provide basic things like word processing, web browsing, picture viewing, music playing. If I want to actually work, I'll go to the workstation, which is much better set up with a proper chair, desk with notes laid out, dual monitors, mice, ergonomic keyboard, headsets, quiet room, telephones, printer, servers, router, fridge, coffee, library, strong lighting.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report

  • Pete Sime,

    an archive which co-ordinates the digitalization of the audio past.... then making that available to the public

    would be a marvellous thing- but a copyright nightmare, eh?

    Not necessarily, if the Film Archive in Wellington, and other such institutions are anything to go by.

    Until 2 weeks ago when I started a new position I was one of the cataloguers creating records for MP3s (there are some other formats like FLAC, but mainly they're MP3s) ingested into the National Digital Heritage Archive. Because of copyright issues we can only stream them in house - either in Wellington or at one of the service centres. We do put the source of the files on our records if they're readily available.

    Anybody know anything about the KoBo, whitcoull's just available- here e-reader?

    I've checked the website - seems to be an exercise in enticement but doesnt answer questions like "Can you scan on your own computer titles you own and then upload them to the KoBo?" (This would be the killer ability for me...)

    I bought one yesterday. Start-up time is a little slow, but page-turns are about the same as a physical book. You're not locked into a retailer - but it only reads epub and pdf (I'm not so sure about DRM issues). I put on a number of epub files from Project Gutenberg last night and they work really well.

    Dunedin • Since Apr 2008 • 171 posts Report

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