Up Front: Casual, Shallow and Meaningless
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JacksonP, in reply to
That means John may well get called Miriama
Ah, now I get it. Thanks Harold.
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Percy Flage, in reply to
The late Marcel Marceau had little patience for phatic discourse. His response to the the 'and what do you do?' question was, 'I breathe.' Succinct and truthful, albeit rather rude and dismissive.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
The worse small talk starter ever (and one I use distastefully often) is "And what do you do?" How the hell do you answer that?
"Well, I do lots of things."
I still haven't worked out a way to say "I've got a TV show" without sounding like a wanker ...
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Moz, in reply to
I still haven't worked out a way to say "I've got a TV show" without sounding like a wanker ...
Isn't that why you'd say "I've got my own TV show"? I can imagine using that after being regaled with wanker-stories from someone, whether of the "I'm so rich" or the "I'm such an arsehole" variety.
Whereas kiwi men just grunt
Nah, mate, we say maaaate, mate. See, mate, you just gotta find a mate and get down with his mates and you'll be great, mate. Maaaate!
With men I often do shared activities rather than huge chat, but it works for me. And if it takes 3 hours in the workshop to get to "the missus is a bit crook", so be it. I'm there, he's there, he knows I care.
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JacksonP, in reply to
"I've got a TV show"
And a mighty fine one at that.
One of my friends in Wellington used to say 'well, when I'm not making milkshakes and selling coke, I drive the Cable car'. He was in fact a film editor. Which was about the coolest thing any of us were doing at the time.
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Makes you think. Sometimes I say " How do you know so and so" if I know the person who's holding the shindig, but know no-one else otherwise. I have been known to ask people what they do for a living. I couch it slightly differently with an addendum of "....when you're not here." I don't know what else to ask. If it's a PAS thing, or what have you, there's instantly common ground, I guess. But if I don't know someone at all? More than likely, I'll cling to chitchat. Chitchat's okay if you've only just met someone, I think.
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Sacha, in reply to
I'm there, he's there, he knows I care
Amen.
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3410,
[On second thoughts, that might not necessarily be taken the right way.]
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
What would be some good ice breakers that aren't of the How are you?, What do you do variety?
Person 1"Gidday"
Person 2 "Yeah, Nah." (applies in many situations)For forgotten names get your friend to say to them, "Hi, Im .... and you are? (thus enabling you off the hook) helps to prewarn your friend.
As my man used in the loo t'other night
Stranger taking wee " How was that! (with regard AB's semi)
My man " Comme ce, comme ca."or look down in his direction and then "Comme ce, comme ca"
Thus saving all need for conversation with stranger.another response for Howareya? "Hard day, you really don't want to know" and or "I can't talk about it"
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Carol Stewart, in reply to
Or in response to the ghastly Have a nice day!:
I have other plans.
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What would be some good ice breakers that aren't of the How are you?, What do you do variety?
Richard Briers suggests "Did you know that the male spider has his penis on the end of one of his legs?"
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Which is why they don't shake legs when they meet
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DCBCauchi, in reply to
Words don't seem to be able to express the need for communion as well as many of us would like, so we've developed codes.
It's called phatic communion. The word 'phatic' means that what you're conveying is not the sense of your words as such, but an amorphous 'Yeah mate, I'm with you.'
(I'm only just working my way through this very interesting conversation now, so apologies if someone's already made this point.)
And cos I can't not say something about me: I'm hard on my friends, especially the people I care most about. I'm in no way a nice person. I'm not too worried about this. It all works out in the end.
I grew up in the 70s. Everyone told me 'Be yourself, and everything will turn out fine,' so I did. Ha ha. As my brother's wife said last night: 'Don't you mean "Be your selves!?!"' You are that you are.
And (re: Vanuatu) you know good friends when no-one feels the need to fill the silence.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
That being said, I fucking hate the hairdresser
Yes, I recall an incident of threatening to sue Rodney Wayne once for getting the red completely wrong. It went all "and you call that red!
A year or so later I was at a Schwarzkopf function and dammit I was seated at a table next to the lad. Everyone sat with polite hellos. I sat next to Rodney, he smiled and said hello. My response " I've met you before, you dyed my hair, did an appalling job and I threatened to sue your ass" He roared with laughter.
As one may see, I have no problem meeting up with others however they probably have a problem with me.
disclaimer 1 : I was off my trolley at the time.
disclaimer 2 : I managed free hair dos for 15 years by being a model for Schwarzkopf hair shows. -
Sacha, in reply to
though they may do after a tinkle
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
spinners...
Did you know that the male spider has
his penis on the end of one of his legs?I hear ya get a lot of those foot long penises on the web...
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I think laughter is a great addition to any gathering. That's an ice breaker.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
Or in response to the ghastly Have a nice day!
:I have other plans.or Maybe
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DCBCauchi, in reply to
The word 'phatic' means that what you're conveying is not the sense of your words as such, but an amorphous 'Yeah mate, I'm with you.'
And as the man said:
'Who is with me is against me!'
Speaking of words to live by.
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JacksonP, in reply to
Or in response to the ghastly Have a nice day!:
I have other plans.
Not so common with adults, but I do like saying in response to 'thanks for having us'
'Thanks for being had'.Polite children tend to look a little bewildered, but good to keep them guessing.
And then of course there was a girlfriend who responded to 'excuse me' with 'there's no excuse for you'. It didn't last.
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How are you?
I've got a mortgage.
How are you?You got Life Insurance?
How are you?Fair to middling.
How are you?
Thirsty.
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JacksonP, in reply to
Thirsty.
Neighbourhood?
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
yes going now :)
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Smalltalk? pub
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