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Hard News: Occupy: Don't call it a protest

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  • DCBCauchi, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    John Key could have made blocks of cheese to hand out as election bribes.

    A particularly pungent cheese. A pungency that reminds you of something else...

    Since Feb 2011 • 320 posts Report Reply

  • Kate Hannah, in reply to Carol Stewart,

    Baaaa haaaa haaaa. PBRF is the cause of my radio silence this afternoon. If only talking about PBRF met the PBRF definition of research. I'd be set.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2010 • 107 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    We have surfeit of cheese. Meat Loaf is touring NZ.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4463 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Kate Hannah,

    If only talking about PBRF met the PBRF definition of research. I'd be set.

    some branches of Philosophy..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16760 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to dyan campbell,

    Superb critique, Dyan.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18964 posts Report Reply

  • Kate Hannah, in reply to Russell Brown,

    +1 .

    I'm planning on revisiting that first line every now & then.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2010 • 107 posts Report Reply

  • DCBCauchi,

    Oh look, the Stuff thing on the Hobbit has changed. Not improved, changed.

    And there in a nutshell is a key difference between electronic and print publishing. It is really hard to recall all the printed copies of a paper and have another go at something masquerading as journalism.

    Which is why people wishing to control things advocate getting rid of print in favour of electronica. Who controls your ebook? If it changes can you tell? Can you even check whether it has?

    Spot the paranoid.

    Since Feb 2011 • 320 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to dyan campbell,

    but is Paul Moon really an academic?

    If you believe that AUT's a university. After reading your splendid rebuttal I'm hardly inclined to continue to give it the benefit of the doubt.

    Thanks especially for the Galbraith quote in it's entirety.
    Appreciate you Canadians : )

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 3555 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    If you believe that AUT’s a university.

    It's such a university that it has 'university' in its name twice. Auckland University of Technology University. There is nothing about that name which even slightly smacks of protesting too much. No, not a skerrick.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3661 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    Thanks especially for the Galbraith quote in it’s entirety.
    Appreciate you Canadians : )

    Speaking of Galbraith...

    "Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's the other way round."

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4353 posts Report Reply

  • DCBCauchi,

    And guess which country, with a remarkably similar history to ours, we based our bill of rights on?

    The bill of rights with the careful ignore this if it’s too hard provision. Not sure whether that was in the original.

    Not sure we want to make laws the way the Canadians do either. Drafting in two languages simultaneously to ensure no translation mishaps! Who’d’ve thunk it?

    Actually doing what you said you'd do. Too hard?

    Since Feb 2011 • 320 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Danielle,

    has 'university' in its name twice

    Auckland University of Tautology

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16760 posts Report Reply

  • Kate Hannah, in reply to Danielle,

    Love it! You're saying what I'd love to say.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2010 • 107 posts Report Reply

  • JacksonP, in reply to Sacha,

    Auckland University of Tautology

    Nice one.

    Since we're quoting. On books and revolution.

    Every time there's a revolution, it comes from somebody reading a book about revolution. David Walker wrote a book and Nat Turner did his thing.

    Mike Tyson

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2144 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    Front page today http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10762353
    Ah the university wars. Who gets to be one and who gets to buy one, bitter, bitter stuff.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to DCBCauchi,

    Oh look, the Stuff thing on the Hobbit has changed. Not improved, changed.

    And there in a nutshell is a key difference between electronic and print publishing. It is really hard to recall all the printed copies of a paper and have another go at something masquerading as journalism.

    This can be done right. The Guardian is quite assiduous about annotating changes to online stories.

    Stuff, on the other hand, is particularly bad for making significant changes to stories while keeping them under the same URL and headline, and not annotating changes. Things just disappear.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18964 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to JacksonP,

    Nice one

    from one of their staff, so I figure it's kosher

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16760 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Stuff, on the other hand, is particularly bad for making significant changes to stories while keeping them under the same URL and headline

    Totally, and it's a factor in me linking to the Herald more often.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16760 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Pryers and priors...

    Stuff, on the other hand, is particularly bad for making significant changes to stories while keeping them under the same URL and headline, and not annotating changes. Things just disappear.

    And they could really do with a 'Related stories' or 'Earlier stories' side bar as well, perhaps instead of the links to the same stories they have in 2 or 3 or more places...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 5052 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    Railway line obfuscation sells papers, I suspect they do rather well out of digital as well these days.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Q Williams, in reply to Sacha,

    Whose lawn? " for working people "Actually, I doubt you will find a single person who doesn't, or hasn't worked down at occupy, so where allowed to use the area so long as we're happy little drones and we only use it on the few hours of the week we actually have to our selves, but not if we want to participate in our democracy on a meaningful level? When we have an absolutely pathetic media, and journalism has hit an all time low? When the system is consistently failing and driving our species toward extinction?

    Actually, public spaces are for everyone, whether they last their jobs in the crisis or not.

    And what Occupy are doing is a shit load more important than a nice empty lawn to look at. Nobody said don't come down and eat your lunch, and for those of us who don't have decent work at he moment, we're employing ourselves advocating the rights of everyone, including you buggers, so be grateful for a change, look up at who is responsible for things being the way they are, rather than falling for the propaganda and blaming some imaginary class of evil poor people on benefits.

    New Zealand • Since Oct 2011 • 2 posts Report Reply

  • Q Williams, in reply to Q Williams,

    *lost not last jobs *we're etc... please excuse shocking typos

    New Zealand • Since Oct 2011 • 2 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Q Williams,

    Whose lawn?

    exactly - it's a gift angle from complainers, really

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16760 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Q Williams,

    note there's an Edit link that appears if you point at your comment within 15 mins - bottom right corner near the Reply link.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16760 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Technical question:
    How come this thread appears to be "stickied" on the PAS list?

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

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