Hard News by Russell Brown

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  • Russell Brown, in reply to Sacha,

    Work and Income are piss-poor negotiators, just like the current cabinet?

    It's starting to sound like they're stuck with policy settings that don't work. They have to go to the market and the market is enjoying a premium for taking poor people.

    I suspect the current climate of woo over "methamphetamine contamination" isn't helping. That seems to have well and truly slipped the surly bonds of science.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22747 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Someone please acquaint Labour with this sort of evidence:
    http://thecostofsprawl.com/

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19680 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    They have to go to the market and the market is enjoying a premium for taking poor people.

    Who knew markets wouldn't work in desperate asymmetric situations like emergency housing, eh?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19680 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX, in reply to Marc C,

    This was totally predictable, years ago, with John Key and his government setting the perfect investment environment for wealthy “investors” and immigrants to come here, buy into real estate and business, and turn many local residents into nothing else but tenants in their own country.

    Once upon a time it was only Maori who felt like being taken over and invaded, now it is wider New Zealand, white, brown, whatever their colour, but it tends to hit the ones at the very bottom first and harder than the rest, as usual.

    Pretty Much - another element is money laundering on a grand scale - there was an article in Metro on Money Laundering a while back - one of the currents in that article was (the Auckland) Ppty Market as effective money laundering mechanism in both light commercial rentals and residential ppty.

    I feel whole thing - the economy - is so out of whack it could collapse.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1224 posts Report Reply

  • B Jones, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Also “incoherent” and “unfair”.

    You have to run that through the bureaucratic anger translator to get the full impact of that. I'd guess at least three or four measured, cautious folk with eyes on what their bosses and minister would be prepared to accept wrote and reviewed that paper. Words like unfair aren't used often in reports - normal usage would be something like "the potential to lead to inequitable outcomes", sadly.

    Also, topping the poetic heights with easy grace there Russell?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 976 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to B Jones,

    and 'unaccountable' in Thorndon-speak sometimes just means 'we can't make em do what we want'.

    Not necessarily a bad thing if the results are good. But hey, who measures results? Too busy inserting caveats about intervention logics into purchasing agreements.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19680 posts Report Reply

  • Marc C, in reply to DexterX,

    Yep, but our (mostly commercially sensitive) MSM have already closed the Panama Papers chapter of "news", so we get no more reporting on such topics, I fear.

    Business as usual, and Key loves it, it is all going according to plan, fourth term ensured now.

    All he has to do is hoodwink enough, pull the wool over most people's eyes, keep immigration going, and after that, once he is ready to retire in Hawaii, it can and will all fall to crap pieces, us picking up the pieces.

    Akl • Since Oct 2012 • 437 posts Report Reply

  • llew40, in reply to Marc C,

    With respect, the creation of an environment for massive bias towards investment in property for both domestic and foreign investors predates the current government by many years. Granted, it's now hitting an extreme but this has been a generation in the making

    Since Nov 2012 • 140 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    My daughter spent the morning helping a young man get some photo ID. You can't seem to get photo ID without photo ID to prove it is you. It is extraordinarily difficult for people without a passport, drivers' licence or other identifying certification.

    Would anyone happen to know of any clear write-ups on this (NZ-based, preferably online) which I could reference next time someone tries to argue with me on how reasonable it is to require regular people to have ID to do regular stuff that's meant to be accessible and easy to do?

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1139 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to DexterX,

    I feel whole thing - the economy - is so out of whack it could collapse.

    It's been said before, but much as a collapse would be Irish or Icelandic-level ugly, it's one of the few things not involving mass deaths that'll push Generation Rentier out of the housing market and pave the way for meaningful reform. Politicians are either in the pocket of Generation Rentier, or too chicken to confront it for fear of being unelectable for a generation.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5415 posts Report Reply

  • Marc C,

    Having been near suicidal and up for "review" by WINZ I am near explosive (after previous experiences), and hate the thought of even going to WINZ. I may keep you posted, but I do not like to spread out my own complex issues. I coped for a while, and the less WINZ intererence the better, but knowing the regime, it only makes things so much terribly worse, there must be a better way.

    Akl • Since Oct 2012 • 437 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Marc C,

    I took a voluntary pay cut in order to qualify for a Community Services Card, so that treatment for a rare dental condition wouldn't break the bank. It also qualified me for the Accommodation Supplement, not because I want it, but because it's the least worst solution in the circumstances. In each case I got decent treatment because of the very fact I was in work. Even then, WINZ is more like a police interrogation room for many others, and it need not be like that.

    Personally, my biggest issue right now is the future of work, the prospect of jobs like mine being Internet-ted into obsolescence, and the new jobs having no pathways except "who you know".

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5415 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Tubers or not tubers...
    I can't believe that they are thinking of building subdivisions on Pukekohe soils, as intimated on TV1 news last night.
    That would be the height of stupidity and blinkered short-term thinking.
    There must be poorer soils that can be built on near to National's upgraded Highways of National Significance, or dare I even suggest a rail link...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7886 posts Report Reply

  • Howard Edwards,

    The president of Horticulture NZ was interviewed on Morning Report today and said that if this happens then the price of vegetables would go through the roof and we would have to import them from China. It seems that Pukekohe's unique soil and climate combination means that it is the only place in NZ where leafy greens and other vegetables can be harvested in the spring months.

    Increasing the price of fresh vegetables at a time when those at the bottom of the economic heap are having enough difficulty making good nutritional food choices would seem to be madness - but of course this government and its cronies have always been at war with Public Health. See this recent piece by John Roughan in the Herald for example.

    Albany • Since Apr 2013 • 66 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    I still don't see how making more land available is going to help people who can't get a mortgage. laborers who work the Pukekohe land are not going to get a look in. Not even in our wildest dreams.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4304 posts Report Reply

  • Rosemary McDonald, in reply to steven crawford,

    laborers who work the Pukekohe land are not going to get a look in. N

    We stopped off at the petrol station in Pukekohe a couple of weeks ago. Lots of lush growth in the rich soil....but also lots of lifestyle blocks peppering the foothills.

    As an indication of the socioeconomic status of the area....a two litre flagon of non Anchor milk was twice the price we would have paid at the petrol station at Drury, and more than twice what we'd pay at our local dairy in Hamilton.

    Waikato, or on the road • Since Apr 2014 • 1344 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    I can't believe that they are thinking of building subdivisions on Pukekohe soils, as intimated on TV1 news last night.

    The Pukekohe area was the setting for many of the stories in Roderick Finlayson's unfortunately neglected Brown Man's Burden. The dispossessed Maori that Finlayson knew and wrote about in his IMHO often superb short stories had, in the wake of the land wars, been reduced to servitude to mainly Chinese market gardeners.

    Te Puea Herangi made it her mission to better the lives of those she saw as her people. "I want the people on the land,. I want land in order to draw my people back from Chinese gardens. Maori women are living with Chinese gardeners. I had some stolen from me at Ngaruawahia. If the men cannot get a living many of them go to the Chinese. There are about 400 of my people at the Chinese gardens around Auckland, and 300 at Pukekohe. They have gone there to work because they need food and clothing. My scheme will help to bring people back to their land.”

    While most of these events happened back before WW2, their effect is being felt right now as the Te Puea Marae open their doors to the homeless.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace, in reply to izogi,

    There was a good article a couple of days ago from a journalist about accessing Work and Income. Photo ID was required to get in the door and her press pass was not good enough. So if you don't have photo ID from a passport (very expensive), 18+ card (which requires photo ID to get) or a drivers' licence (unlikely for many disabled or young people) you literarily can't get in the door of Work and Income

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/77578966/Joining-the-queue-at-Work-and-Income-Where-no-one-seems-happy

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3196 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Further to the CCC and Government changing the game with 'Social Hosuing' in Chchch - a new Press Release from KOA (Keep Our Assets):

    Christchurch City Council Is Flying Blind On The Impact Of Its Changes To Council Housing
    The Christchurch City Council (CCC) is the second biggest landlord in NZ (after the State). So, any changes with the city’s publicly-owned housing portfolio are a big deal.
    Just such a major change is about to take effect from July, when the Council becomes a Community Housing Provider (transferring its social housing to a Trust of which the CCC is a 49% shareholder).
    And the Council is flying blind into it without having any idea as to the impact.
    Keep Our Assets Canterbury (KOA) asked the Council, under the Official Information Act, for: “any analysis, working papers and reports addressing the impact, of the establishment of Otautahi Community Housing Trust, on;
    a) Council’s Social Housing Strategy and related Council polices and obligations
    and
    b) Staff currently employed in the City Housing unit at CCC.

    Council declined the request because it “would require a considerable amount of collation and research to complete”.
    So, it seems glaringly obvious that the Council has done no such impact assessment.
    It is utterly outrageous that Council has pursued the establishment of the Community Housing Trust without even a cursory glance at what that may mean for Council’s ongoing rights and obligations (to the community (let alone its’ own staff).
    An “impact assessment” is management 101, particularly on a matter as fundamental as surrendering control of an asset as important as our publicly-owned housing and which affects so many people. Yet we are assured that it has not been done.
    This is the managerial equivalent of demolishing your house without having given any thought as to where you’re going to live.
    Not only is the Council flying blind into this, it is doing so deliberately.
    --
    Murray Horton
    Convenor

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7886 posts Report Reply

  • Marc C,

    Another expert commenting on the housing market and situation in Auckland:

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/thepanel/audio/201801498/poverty-crisis-or-housing-crisis

    'Poverty crisis or housing crisis?'

    Economic commentator Grant Cleary saying it resembles the Irish bubble that burst.

    It is out of control and will end badly is the assessment.

    But it will offer little consolation to those already struggling to pay rents or buy a home, and particularly those without homes.

    Akl • Since Oct 2012 • 437 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell, in reply to Marc C,

    There's a thought - perhaps the government is expecting a burst, and they are positioning themselves to avoid blame when it happens.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 485 posts Report Reply

  • Marc C,

    On Planet Bennett there is NO HOUSING CRISIS:
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/201801510/no-housing-crisis,-says-paula-bennett

    "I would certainly not call it a crisis" she answered to a question by RNZ's Queenstown based reporter. She was there today, after avoiding RNZ and other media for four days, apparently not keen on answering any questions.

    This time she talked, about her "pipeline" into housing, there in her view not being a national housing crisis and about consent issues, nimbyism and what other excuses she could come up with. She conceded Bill English is the one behind National's housing and social policies, and she claimed she was showing "leadership".

    Well, where was that leadership after having known for over a year that social housing was not functioning:
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/304288/emergency-housing-sector-'unaccountable'

    Akl • Since Oct 2012 • 437 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Crisis? What Crisis?
    Is National creating Supertramps perhaps?

    But seriously I think they’re well past “the time a difficult or important decision must be made" and well into the phase where "an important change takes place, indicating either recovery or death" a "time of intense difficulty, trouble, or danger"
    - all textbook crisis definitions.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7886 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to John Farrell,

    There's a thought - perhaps the government is expecting a burst, and they are positioning themselves to avoid blame when it happens.

    If a bubble burst really is impending, I wager it'd be far too big to spin for whoever's in power. Either those who think "our PM is a great guy to drink with" will realise the whole house of cards for what it is... or they'll sink further into denial and go a little bit Trump.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5415 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Either those who think "our PM is a great guy to drink with" will realise the whole house of cards for what it is... or they'll sink further into denial and go a little bit Trump.

    Or a bit of both. People start looking for excuses to claim that they never really liked that guy anyway. Every scandal from the last 5+ years will get an airing, but of course the alternative at the time was so much dreadfully worse, and so that justified voting and expressing support as people did.

    It's hard to know how long this government's going to last. When it finally goes, though, I doubt many will be accepting any great personal mistakes in keeping it there so long. Which is fine, as long as the majority who voted against it actually wanted it gone.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1139 posts Report Reply

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