Hard News: The First Draft
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nzlemming, in reply to
and should be a little careful about weaving elaborate scenarios about how the Prime Minister is corrupt unless we have some actual evidence
I'm still working on the shape-changing lizard theory. Perhaps the bracelet is part of his transformation control system.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
I’m still working on the shape-changing lizard theory. Perhaps the bracelet is part of his transformation control system.
That only works if Key is as hawt as Morena Baccarin. I'm not going there.
(Spoiler warning if you have any intention of catching up with V, but seriously the show is so utterly incoherent it doesn't really matter.)
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nzlemming, in reply to
That only works if Key is as hawt as Morena Baccarin. I'm not going there.
Ah, Ms Baccarin. Only one of the things that made Firefly worth watching.
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Have had people in conversation with me saying "Well, since the moon influences weather, it is a reasonable theory that it influences earthquakes", I went one step back and graph Dunedin's rainfall for the passed year against lunar cycles.
Rainfall vs Moon's Phase
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thoughtfulbloke/5492207401/
Rainfall vs Moon's Orbit
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thoughtfulbloke/5492207399/
from this I can conclude as Dunedin is unaffected by lunar based weather, we are also safe from earthquakes (to use logic as sound as the orginal theory) -
The number of apparently sane, rational people who seem inclined to believe Ken Ring really has staggered me - they've been popping up all over the place since that John Campbell interview.
I'm going to hold my head in my hands and weep quietly for a bit, I think.
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
The number of apparently sane, rational people who seem inclined to believe Ken Ring really has staggered me - they've been popping up all over the place since that John Campbell interview.
Who was it who said, "If you scare people enough, they'll believe anything"?
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Well, the tone has been more along the lines of 'well, he's provided some figures which seem plausible and he's quite charming really, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt'.
If the intention of the John Campbell interview was to nip him in the bud, then it's a spectacular backfire, as far more people seem to a) have heard of him, and b) be inclined to give him head room than before.
Shows the danger of paying attention to these cranks and thus legitimising them.
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I don't think it's just being scared. I'd hate to see a survey of Kiwis' beliefs in non-rational but popular delusions. It would probably be no worse than Americans', but then again, it wouldn't be better.
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While I'm certain that there would be a lot of belief in the non-rational, I suspect that it would vary widely with Americans' based on subject area. The Scientific American survey of its international readership is kind of interesting in this regard- http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100922/full/467388a.html
One thing about the earthquake that really, really stood out to me was that in talking to survivors, and media reports, hardly anyone at all said "I prayed" or "god saved me". Anyone would think we lived in one of the most secular countries in the world or something. -
SteveH, in reply to
Tsar = 7.1 Which goes to show there is a shit load of energy in the Alpine Fault when it lets go next with an 8+.
Looking again, I see that on Wikipedia's Richter Scale page it's listed as slightly less than a 8.5. The Tsar Bomba page and the formula on the Moment Magnitude page give 7.1. The 7.1Mw figure assumes 0.5% of the total energy gets converted to seismic waves, which is a ballpark figure for an underground test. The 8.5 is based on the total energy released. Take your pick, I guess - neither figure makes much sense for a comparison.
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SteveH. I'll go with the name of this post. :-)
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and he's quite charming really
Actually he's* not at all charming when challenged. This from Silly Beliefs:
I merely suggested you may be happier joining the Taleban, now that your jackbooted shin-kicking mate Stalin is gone and the KGB and Gestapo have disbanded. There can’t be many places left for those who don’t like the thoughts of others and seek to do them in, along with their careers or enterprises. It must be hard living in the free world when all around you there are folk who have differences of viewpoint and who seek to make a difference, despite your request for them to stop. The KKK would open its doors to you. You should give them a call. Tell them you’re from Corporation X.
He being Ken Ring, of course.
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Scott A, in reply to
I'm still working on the shape-changing lizard theory. Perhaps the bracelet is part of his transformation control system.
Oh. Do I score more or less points on the geek scale if I say I first thought of a particularly wonderful issue of Hellblazer rather than the V?
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Islander, in reply to
It actually repays reading that whole thread to realise what a selfserving conniving un-scientificallyaware shithead Ken Ring truly is- by his own words.
Makes your head hurt, but-
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beliefs in non-rational but popular delusions
oh, you mean like "an economic system based on the premise that infinite exponential economic growth is desirable and possible (on a planet with finite resources (except for solar radiation and gravity))" or other such irrational delusions?
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B Jones, in reply to
Wow, he used to be a professional magician? Also, refers in passing to the "true prehistory of NZ" (read ancient Celtic stone circles). Climate change - check. I think if I could be bothered reading that whole page I'd fill up my woowoo bingo card.
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andin, in reply to
If the intention of the John Campbell interview was to nip him in the bud, then it’s a spectacular backfire,
Leading off with people saying they thought following Kenring's advice, prophesies to my mind, saved their lives. And then too …well… now I sound as Im telling someone how to do their job. Landshakes!
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Carol Stewart, in reply to
Ken has a particularly novel take on climate change denial:
The chemical composition of water might also be looked at, because at the moment the steam molecule is lighter than air and rises to form clouds but the cooler liquid H2O molecule is heavier than air and sinks as rain, in which amounts these contribute to climate. While we are about it we would have to arrange ice's molecular structure so it thawed at -70C, which is today (24 June)'s current temperature at the South Pole at Vostok, and -54C which is the average winter temperature of the Arctic. As ice presently thaws only at +4C we have a lot of work to do to get the poles to melt and stay melted all year around.
It's like he lives in a parallel universe where the laws of chemistry and physics are different. A universe where ice thaws at +4C :-)
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I'm still working on the shape-changing lizard theory. Perhaps the bracelet is part of his transformation control system.
You'll be able to ask David Icke in person about the shapechanging reptilian elites, when he tours NZ later this year.
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Islander, in reply to
Ick!
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proceeds going towards helping fund David's on-going research into the New World Order.
Teehee..."on-going research......" Snort.
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ScottY, in reply to
No doubt the funding will go towards exposing the shocking truth behind the NWO's machinations, such as the fact that cancer is a fungus, and that the evil Rockefellers hold the cure (oh, and I assure you it's purely a coincidence that They are almost all Jewish)
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Isn't David Icke the British Alex Jones?
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No one will let him on the tele there. Thank goodness
Im seeing connections...
Charlie Sheen....The Bohemian Gardens ....shapeshifting......ah conspiracy -
ScottY, in reply to
Charlie Sheen....The Bohemian Gardens ....shapeshifting......ah conspiracy
And Justin Bieber got his hair cut last week. That can hardly be a coincidence, now, can it?
But seriously, lets just hope Icke doesn't end up talking at Te Papa like the last prominent paranoid conspiracist to visit these shores did.
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