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Hard News: Trump's Dummkopfs

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  • Tom Johnson, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    I do agree, it would of been a good strategy to destroy such a bigoted man, they went for Trumps record , a pitiful garbage of nonsense and bluster and lies. Setting HC up but yeh that guy is a disgrace.

    hamilton • Since Mar 2016 • 98 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    The New York Times has published an interactive… The 273 People, Places and Things Donald Trump Has Insulted on Twitter: A Complete List – since declaring his candidacy in June. Every insult is linked to the source.

    In their annual ranking of America’s richest people, Forbes informs us that Donald Trump has lost a further $800 million in the past year. I guess that means the orange one will have no taxes to pay… forever.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1386 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to Alfie,

    Every insult

    Look this guy is an insult to humanity, we have lost our way when he became a possible candidate for POTUS.
    What if he wins? Will there be any soul searching in the US. Sure but by the wrong people i.e. not those who elected him.
    When I say we, I mean all of us somehow need to get together (we have the means...internet anyone?) and figure this out, put the money making on hold and just lift our noses out of whatever trough it is currently buried in. And look to the future ya know 10,000 yrs into the future. Otherwise extinction is beckoning.
    Here, foolish ape, over here...

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1881 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to andin,

    Look this guy is an insult to humanity, we have lost our way when he became a possible candidate for POTUS.

    The Washington Post is running yet another gross Trump story showing his attitude towards women. Trump maintains that when you’re famous like him, you can do anything you like to women. Anything. Writer Ruth Marcus find’s Trump’s misogynism revolting.

    “Grab them by the p—y.” I covered the Clarence Thomas-Anita Hill hearings, and the Bill Clinton-Monica Lewinsky impeachment proceedings, and I still cannot believe I am typing this sentence about a candidate for president of the United States, or that you will be able to read it, even in redacted form, in The Washington Post.

    That the Republican Party is still supporting this disgusting excuse for a human being demonstrates extremely poor judgement, at best.

    In a related story, Stephen Stromberg insists, The Christian right must renounce Trump or renounce its self-respect.

    Principles or power? It's obvious that the religious right in America are happy to betray one of these things to retain their grasp on the other.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1386 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Alfie,

    It’s obvious that the religious right in America are happy to betray one of these things to retain their grasp on the other.

    They desperately need an AntiChrist figure to trigger their 'final days scenarios' - if it's petrol you want for fuelling a conflagration, Trump will do just fine...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7889 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Is America ready for a President who believes his fame allows him to "grab pussy" and molest women at will? As evidence of Trump's unsuitability to be president continues to mount and top Republicans queue up to distance themselves from his increasingly disturbing behaviour, you have to question the post-reality world we're living in.

    This grossly offensive fool really is in the running for the US presidency and something like 40% of Americans still say they are prepared to support him. If there is a God, he must be pissing himself about now. Reality has disappeared down a rabbit hole and will be resumed as soon as possible. Or maybe not.

    The second presidential debate takes place this afternoon, 1-3pm NZ time on every major news channel.

    And if you haven't yet seen Robert De Niro's opinion of Donald Trump, it's 56 seconds that's worth a peek.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1386 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Alfie,

    The Apprentice out-takes are holding out for top dollar, I'll bet.

    I feel compelled to watch the debate this arvo, if only to see if the whole thing descends into a shit fight about who is more morally reprehensible, an ex-president, or the presidential nominee. This presidential election had already descended into farce months ago, but now I'm curious to see if it can devolve even more.

    I'm expecting Clinton to steer clear of the elephant in the room until Trump brings it up himself. She doesn't need to raise it, everyone already knows, the damage is being done. She can valiantly try to drag discussion away from the penises of male candidates, and then just let the rope spool out as Trump draws direct attention to his vulgarity.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10633 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    Karma is a bitch and all that, but I have a tiny bit of sympathy for Trump on this issue. Secretly recorded locker room banter from ten years ago should not be dragged up to attack someone. Folks are right, this is how a lot of men brag to each other in private. If, in an age where everything is recorded, the indiscretions of a private life before entering politics are used as a weapon when in public life no one will will risk the reputational damage of standing for public office. Some might argue that in Trump’s case, the ends justify the means. But Trump is ridiculous enough to be beaten fair and square, not by this sort of scandal mongering.

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2213 posts Report Reply

  • linger, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    Nah, it’s all of a piece with his campaign.
    Live by the bullshit, die by the bullshit.
    (Generously assuming that this too is bullshit,
    and not an honest expression of his belief.)
    The past few months seem to have demonstrated that bullshit, utterly unconstrained by reality, can't be beaten by “fair and square”: the best you can hope for is that it defeats itself. That’s bloody depressing.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1889 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    Secretly recorded locker room banter from ten years ago should not be dragged up to attack someone.

    Um, Trump was actually wearing the microphone. At the end of the footage, the other guy asks for it back, says the interview is over. Trump was saying all that stuff with a microphone attached to his lapel to a media personality. That ain't no secret recording, that's a guy who just doesn't give a shit who knows what a jerk he is.

    The out-takes that will come out will be no different. This was stuff recorded in a studio in front of heaps of witnesses.

    So, nah, I have no sympathy for him. OK, so Americans have to actually hear it with their own ears in recorded form because the endless litany of people who have heard him expressing this kind of crap, and a whole lot worse, just aren't to be believed. Well, there it is - he really is that much of a dick.

    If, in an age where everything is recorded, the indiscretions of a private life before entering politics are used as a weapon when in public life no one will will risk the reputational damage of standing for public office.

    Bollocks. There's no end of people who want to be the President of the USA. How it came down to this clown being the best the Republicans have to offer is just an indictment on their party.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10633 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Wow that was so horrible I'll have to watch the finale.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10633 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    How it came down to this clown being the best the Republicans have to offer is just an indictment on their party

    It's more that, for the second half of the twentieth century, the middle-class American worker did very well - they had job security, could afford a reasonable house and all the consumer goods they could aspire to. If they wanted (e.g) a snowmobile, they didn't have to save up, they went out and bought one.

    That's all been eroded, and people are legitimately pissed off. For the wealthy, who've largely benefited from the erosion of workers benefits, this is a worry - the working classes might start supporting something close to socialism. So people like the Koch brothers have sponsored this astroturf movement to create a right-wing 'revolution' that turns workers on each other and away from the rich.

    This happened before: Henry Ford, Alfried Krupp and many others were enthusiasts for a workers revolutionary ideology that didn't attack capitalism.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to BenWilson,

    Attachment Attachment

    for the love of mike…

    At the end of the footage, the other guy asks for it back…

    ‘The other guy’ being Billy Bush, cousin of George W. Bush, maybe its a Republican thing…
    Bush sure seemed to be enabling and encouraging Trump, down to getting the actress to give them both a hug after they had just finished objectifying her and then getting her to ‘choose’ between him and Trump – real nudge, nudge, wink, wink boys stuff – shame they are ‘adults’!!
    There seemed to be about 5 guys on that bus, whether they were all privy to the ‘locker room’ conversation, it sounded like Trump trying to ‘impress’ men…
    a real charmer!

    <above> Playboy cover 1990
    and
    Harvey Kurtzman’s 1956 Trump magazine – complete with knave!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7889 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Playboy cover 1990

    I remember reading that one for the article about Trump. It was really deep.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10633 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    Everyone knows it's the party of the rich, but in the past they've tried to avoid having actual clowns holding the top job. OK they dropped the ball with Dubya, but he did at least play the game of being president, acting presidentially to the limit of his abilities. But Trump doesn't even try. He's making a sideshow out of probably the most important job in the world. Where with Bush they were just embarrassed about it, this time I think Americans realize it's gone beyond a joke.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10633 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    Folks are right, this is how a lot of men brag to each other in private.

    I have been a man amongst men for several decades, and I've heard my fair share of locker room blue talk. Trump's comments are several thousand kilometers over 'the line'.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    I guess Paddy Gower's 'bromance' with the Trump boys is over...

    Trump was interviewed by TV3 (now Newshub) while visiting New Zealand in 1993 as part of a consortium bidding for a casino operator's licence. In the interview, Trump was asked about his image as a womanising tycoon.
    Trump said: "I think women are beautiful – I think certain women are more beautiful than others, to be perfectly honest – and it's fortunate I don't have to run for political office. "
    ​Newshub Political Editor Patrick Gower said he found the interview in TV3's archives.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/85155867/trump-ghost-from-the-past-resurfaces-in-new-zealand

    ...another expert on 'playful banter' weighs in as well:

    Key would not be drawn on whether Trump's comments were "locker room banter", but said "that language is indefensible".

    Okay, so he's only a 'banterm weight' and his high horse is only pony-sized...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7889 posts Report Reply

  • linger, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Come to think of it, the only other “banter” excuse I’ve heard trotted out by politicians in recent years concerned Mr. “Grab ’em by the ponytail”.
    (Ah, yep, that's what you linked to.)

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1889 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    trumped up...
    I see lots of comments about Trump saying 'he is beyond the pale' - and he is most definitely outside the palisade and beyond the grounds of common decency now.

    Seems to me he is also now the pale rider on his own pale horse (he has the pale mane!) - which sadly only plays to his Revelations-obsessed base...

    Beware the seven Trump pets - we have recently seen the divisive Power of Aaron's Rod on NZ society!

    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7889 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Rich Lock,

    Trump’s comments are several thousand kilometers over ‘the line’.

    Well, for anyone running for public office, anyway. I've certainly heard worse. But really, the line that Trump isn't as bad as ISIS is a bit of a low bar for probably the most important single office that can be held by a human today.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10633 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Samantha's Bee's show has basically replicated the Daily Show vox-pops in the original post, only more cleverly:

    The ease with which these people can be tied up in knots over their own stupid beliefs is really telling.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    From NBC:

    During Sunday's debate, Donald Trump once again said he doesn't know whether Russia is trying to hack the U.S. election, despite Friday's statement by the U.S. intelligence community pointing the finger at Putin -- and despite the fact that Trump was personally briefed on Russia's role in the hacks by U.S. officials.

    A senior U.S. intelligence official assured NBC News that cybersecurity and the Russian government's attempts to interfere in the 2016 election have been briefed to, and discussed extensively with, both parties' candidates, surrogates and leadership, since mid-August. "To profess not to know at this point is willful misrepresentation," said the official. "The intelligence community has walked a very thin line in not taking sides, but both candidates have all the information they need to be crystal clear."

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Foreign Policy magazine makes its first ever US Presidential endorsement – for Clinton, of course.

    In the nearly half-century history of Foreign Policy, the editors of this publication have never endorsed a candidate for political office. We cherish and fiercely protect this publication’s independence and its reputation for objectivity, and we deeply value our relationship with all of our readers, regardless of political orientation.

    It is for all these reasons that FP’s editors are now breaking with tradition to endorse Hillary Clinton for the next president of the United States.

    Our readers depend on FP for insight and analysis into issues of national security and foreign policy. We feel that our obligation to our readers thus extends now to making clear the great magnitude of the threat that a Donald Trump presidency would pose to the United States. The dangers Trump presents as president stretch beyond the United States to the international economy, to global security, to America’s allies, as well as to countless innocents everywhere who would be the victims of his inexperience, his perverse policy views, and the profound unsuitability of his temperament for the office he seeks.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Democratses are wicked, tricksy and false!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10633 posts Report Reply

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