Hard News: Will the grown-ups ever arrive home?
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Soon Lee, in reply to
Sppk
(Ritual self-disemvoweling found elseweb & too good not to share)
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
Ritual self-disemvoweling
the first cut is the deepest...
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Sacha, in reply to
brv!
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Ben Austin, in reply to
So it is useful for boats. Ok, do we have any demonstrated examples of New Zealand boats or ships having issues, solely due to the confusion between our flag and Australia's?
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Rosemary McDonald, in reply to
http://www.standfor.co.nz/#entries
We're getting to be a whiny, complainy, almost seditious wee bunch....
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Rob Stowell, in reply to
We’re getting to be a whiny, complainy, almost seditious wee bunch….
Thank goodness :)
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
We’re getting to be a whiny, complainy, almost seditious wee bunch….
Thank goodness :)
And unlike so many online opinionfests, all pretty civil so far.
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Meanwhile, back on Planet Key...
This from a cuppla years back..
Money trail leads home to New Zealand
NICKY HAGER
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Rich of Observationz, in reply to
Unregistered boats are not alowed to fly any national flags
Reference please: http://legislation.govt.nz/????
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izogi, in reply to
Apparently the Minister can make rules about the manner in which the flag is to be flown, either "by notice in the Gazette or otherwise".
The online Gazette database doesn't seem to have a very good search mechanism, but if I browse the notices, sort alphabetically by Act and click through to about page 8224, the notices seem to go from ones declared under the Fishing Industry Board Amendment Act to those declared under the Food Act, with nothing declared under the Flag Act in between.... at least since they started going online around the early 1990s.
Maybe a former Minister used the "or otherwise" clause to avoid the Gazette notice and instead declare the rule by arranging their breakfast spaghetti, before eating it.
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nzlemming, in reply to
The online Gazette database doesn’t seem to have a very good search mechanism,
Everytime I look at it I think "this is a good candidate for a #GovHack"
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izogi, in reply to
Looking further it's probably somewhere in the Ship Registration Act. I'm just interpreting this by myself, which means I'm probably wrong.
I can see:
* S58 says that all NZ registered ships (which covers most ships >=24 metres that aren't registered in other countries) have to fly the either NZ flag or the NZ marine flag, but not both, when signalled by NZ armed forces, and when berthed either in NZ or at a foreign port.
* S59 says that the nationality of a ship has to be correctly declared to customs before it's allowed to leave for an overseas port.
* S60 states that a ship that's not a NZ-registered ship is not allowed to do anything to make it appear to be an NZ-registered ship, and similarly a NZ ship is not allowed to pretend to be registered overseas. (The text says "New Zealand ship", but that's defined earlier as meaning a ship that's registered to New Zealand".)
So if you're NZ-registered and fly some other country's flag, you might be in trouble, as with being overseas-registered and flying a NZ flag. But the law doesn't seem to care about overseas ships flying flags of the wrong country as long as it's not NZ. It also doesn't seem to care much about smaller unregistered vessels flying flags for any country, unless maybe it could reasonably be interpreted as signifying the ship is registered in NZ when it isn't.... but s58 doesn't really say that unregistered NZ ships can't fly the NZ flag. It just says that NZ-registered ones have to.
And as usual when I try to do this, I may have missed much more.
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So what about the jolly old jolly roger?
Alan Gibbs used to fly one on his gin palace, Laissez-faire . He also carried a cannon on the fore deck. As far as I can tell, both of those things were illegal but then he was Allan Gibbs and has lots a dosh so I guess a blind eye was turned in that direction, after all, he only represented a very small percentage of New Zealand. -
Key's determination about the flag is just him wanting a re-branding of NZ/Aotearoa with something more brand-specific and instantly recognisable.
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Alfie, in reply to
Speaking of children in need parental supervision, is anyone tuned into this Ben Rachinger thing. Seems so very crazy.
It was a quite bizarre interlude which now seems to be over.
"The user deleted their Medium account"
Damn... I was looking forward to a happy ending.
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Sacha, in reply to
He has apparently turned his material over to a journalist instead.
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
It was a quite bizarre interlude which now seems to be over.
“The user deleted their Medium account”
Damn… I was looking forward to a happy ending.
According to the Twitterverse, Rachinger took it down because of legal threats, and that he's 'over the whole thing and others are taking up the story to the world outside blogs/Twitter'.
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The Rachinger story featured on The Nation today -- oddly, I can't locate an online version on the TV3 site. The Herald has a summary of the claims.
The IT consultant posted his claims on the internet earlier this year, and this morning The Nation broadcast an interview with him, detailing his claims Slater commissioned him to hack into left-wing political blog The Standard to try to uncover the identities of the authors of blogs written anonymously or under pseudonyms.
"Cameron Slater asked me, for financial benefit, to hack into The Standard website and to pull out any and all information about authors of anonymous blog posts on The Standard and also to find out email addresses and IP addresses for further hacking," Mr Rachinger told TV's The Nation.
Slater has long claimed blogs on The Standard are ghost written by Labour insiders, including staff members.
In an encrypted text sent to Mr Rachinger in January, Slater allegedly said: "I want proof of admin at The Standard ... I will destroy them."
He later allegedly said: "I want them all outed, all the MPs, [The Standard founder Lynn] Prentice, [Labour Party chief of staff Matt] McCarten ... all of them."
Mr Rachinger says Slater asked him to "focus on this job of getting into The Standard", and said he had $5000 available to pay him to do so. But Slater would not name his backer, who was funding the hacking request.
Hmmm... paying a hacker to infiltrate websites. Isn't there a law against that? Counties Manukau CIB confirm they are investigating Rachinger's allegations but say it's "a complex investigation" and a decision on charges would be "some way off."
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Here's the online video courtesy TV3.
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Police are taking a cautious approach
As generally the case when the perp is part of the ruling party.
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Our media pool has been well and truly shat in. Man, I love good journalism,like 50"s America liked Rock n Roll. I love this pool here, so clean. Well done R.B
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