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Speaker: Are there opportunities within the Government’s childhood obesity plan?

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  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Sacha,

    My objection to that is mainly value-for-money.
    If only there were drive-through chippies. Or kebabs, etc.

    Nice idea, but made-to-order and drive thru generally don't mix. Unless the drive-thru was incredibly long.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5414 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to ,

    Thank you.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19661 posts Report Reply

  • Mary Meldrum,

    Hi all, I've not posted here before. I like to think I'm open to people's diverse points of view (whether I agree with them or not) because I believe that is the only way to come to shared understanding, empathy and ultimately working towards solutions that have a chance of working. I've worked on social policy for many years - some where the public have been dragged along kicking and screaming, and others that take a softly softly approach. I won't go into those here. What I wanted to say is I am shocked at the treatment this group has meted out to Katharine Moody - in my world this is called bullying. I should state I don't know her or necessarily agree with everything she said.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2015 • 3 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to ,

    Thank you Katharine.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22724 posts Report Reply

  • Mary Meldrum,

    Mary?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2015 • 3 posts Report Reply

  • chris, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Katharine’s more recent posts aren’t showing.

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Hi all. I put Katharine’s posts on moderation on Friday. I’ve switched that off again, but I don’t seem to have got the email to release this one she posted today (in response to Sacha:

    how do your friends react when you dole out advice like this?

    Hi folks. Sorry about the other night. This question was the one that really stopped me in my tracks. The answer is I didn’t – I didn’t say anything, She was my best friend and I didn’t try to help her – her diabetes and size were (until very close to the end) an unspoken thing between us. When it came her time to need dialysis, she choose not to commence that treatment.

    Our friendship was a lovely story with a tragic ending.

    Funny thing is, until Sacha asked me this question, I didn’t even realise why I was so desperate to try and get my point across. So again, sorry, I behaved badly but maybe Karen was with me in that moment. I don’t know.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22724 posts Report Reply

  • Rosemary McDonald,

    I don't know Katharine either, however I was linked with her in some of the negative comments.

    An observation.

    Methinks folk are not always properly reading and comprehending the comments of others.

    Much less reading the links that are provided, or even quotes from links.

    Perhaps, before launching in outraged attacks, one could ask for clarification of a comment one finds offensive?

    And Katharine...I got that this topic was of personal significance to you.

    Your friend was with you....Memory, used properly, is a powerful thing.

    "Doomed to repeat.." and all that.

    FWIW...we're collectively in the deepest of smelly stuff....and the tide is rising.

    Shit-slinging is not helping.

    Waikato, or on the road • Since Apr 2014 • 1335 posts Report Reply

  • Mary Meldrum,

    Katharine, I don't think you did anything so seriously wrong that brought on that reaction from others. But thanks for sharing your personal trigger. I still think you were bullied. It is common in my experience that the person bullied feels the need to 'apologise' . Maybe the others in that thread might reflect on their own comments and take a deep breath, say sorry and all move forward on this complex issue that impacts across all of society? just a thought.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2015 • 3 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Mary Meldrum,

    Maybe the others in that thread might reflect on their own comments

    Like the two moderators who told her to stop?

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3887 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Mary Meldrum,

    Katharine, I don’t think you did anything so seriously wrong that brought on that reaction from others. But thanks for sharing your personal trigger. I still think you were bullied. It is common in my experience that the person bullied feels the need to ‘apologise’ .

    I am very aware of these things and while I thought some of the response was unhelpful, the main problem was Katharine not being able to stop hammering her point. For reasons I don't really want to go into, some of the things she said were insensitive and hurtful to others. I'm sure this wasn't intentional.

    I'm impressed with the clarity and sincerity of what she's said and as far as I'm concerned the matter is settled. If people think the issue itself is talked out, I'm happy to close the thread.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22724 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Please do. I think I've had as many important life lessons from this thread as I can comfortably bear.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Megan Wegan, in reply to Mary Meldrum,

    It might also be worth bearing in mind that the "helpful" advice fat people get on a literal daily basis is also bullying.

    Welly • Since Jul 2008 • 1275 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Rosemary McDonald,

    Perhaps, before launching in outraged attacks, one could ask for clarification of a comment one finds offensive?

    Some positions are quite clear enough - though as we've all seen and done at times, our personal urge to promote them may be less conscious.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19661 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    OMG, can some of you please think about the children. Nobody is trying to fat shame anyone. Adults are trying to figor out ways to deal with child obesity. And feeling low self esteem is no excuse for bullying people. What has happened here on the Internet, is bullying. Anyone who dosn’t understand that, please keep the hell away from me.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4163 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I’m impressed with the clarity and sincerity of what she’s said and as far as I’m concerned the matter is settled. If people think the issue itself is talked out, I’m happy to close the thread.

    I agree entirely.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4650 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to steven crawford,

    Well, I think we have a new contender for the title of Best at Not Helping.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Righto folks. This isn't going to resolve and I'm closing the thread. I hope it's a nice day where you are and if it is, I recommend a little time in the sun.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22724 posts Report Reply

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