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Speaker: What I learned in Class: Should Labour go after the "Bogan Vote"?

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  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    the Australian motor industry having run out of buyers...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7944 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7944 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to steven crawford,

    now, it’s the Nissan skyline

    Yes, they remember the Alamo.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10653 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie,

    Music-wise, Deep Purple would have to be the muthalode of most things bogan. After all, that's where the Sabs stole most of their chops from. A few days before the 1984 Queen Street riots the Monsters of the Deep
    played an evening show at Western Springs. Irked by the delay in getting out of the carpark afterwards an angry attendee expressed himself in bogan fashion by performing on-the-spot wheelies of frustration.

    Unfortunately he winged a wheelchair-bound member of his tribe, which raised the righteous ire of the assembled masses. Again in the true bogan manner they hauled him from his vehicle and administered summary bogan justice by depriving him of his pants.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to steven crawford,

    The bogan has evolved – open to new technology – *now, it’s the Nissan skyline.

    And/or the WRX or CRX.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5430 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    See Aussie V8 racing – it was an entire racing code with a caveat that the cars had to be built using 1950’s technology. (I think they now race Japanese and German cars, the Australian motor industry having run out of buyers for their land yachts and closed down).

    There have been thoughts out loud of shipping over the Ford Mustang & Chevy Camaro for whatever succeeds the V8 Supercars. Maybe a return to the Group A rules?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5430 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Ace of spades, definitely.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4414 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to steven crawford,

    Definitely. And regarding Lemmy, how cool is this?

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    Still on cars and music… notice the resemblance?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5430 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Still on cars and music… notice the resemblance?

    Tom Robinson in particular has always sounded just like the Strawbs to me on this number.

    Also TRB & Citizen Band dressed the same, while managing to stand with their feet further apart in each succeeding video. Probably something to do with attempting bogan while having been to a 'good school'.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to Nick J,

    can I cross credit my Iron Maiden, or is that too middle class?

    Iron Maiden is a quintessential metal band, existing as they do outside of the constraints of time and space that might in any other group cause at least a miniscule change in fashion or style.

    So you get a pass.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    Definitely. And regarding Lemmy, how cool is this?

    iwow – rum and cokes on the house ( crate of beer for the lads)...

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4414 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to steven crawford,

    Ace of spades, definitely

    and naturally...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7944 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Baker, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Now that made me chuckle!

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2015 • 5 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Young, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    Er, except Britain doesn't have bogans, it has chavs. Some of whom are gay, apparently, but then Britain is a very stratified society.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 571 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Craig Young,

    Er, except Britain doesn't have bogans, it has chavs. Some of whom are gay, apparently, but then Britain is a very stratified society.

    Could you be a bit more specific? I really don't have a clue what it is I've said that you're on about.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    V8 Supercars, Bathurst...
    Who remembers "Godzilla", banned from racing because it was just too good compared to other "supercars".

    The racing GT-Rs not only ended the reign of the previously all-conquering Ford Sierra Cosworths in Australian touring car racing, but their incredible success ironically led to their demise. For 1993, the ATCC rules were changed to exclude four-wheel drive turbocharged cars, ushering in today’s two-make V8 Supercar series and closing a spectacular chapter in Australian motor sport history.

    But the Nassan could well be coming back after its win at the Bathurst 12 Hour race win.

    Not since Jim Richards called the crowd a “pack of arseholes” in 1992 have Nissan drivers stood on the top step of the Bathurst podium, and the GT-R made its move with only minutes remaining in the race.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Alan P,

    I grew up in Glen Eden in the 70s and 80s. We were, and still are, westies. Never Bogan. I don't even know where that word came from. Australia maybe. I think westies probably only use it jokingly even now. As far as the car thing, all true westies from my era knew the hierarchy: American V8s over all, with Mopar at the top, then Ford, then Chevrolet (GM). Next comes Aussie cars, in the same order Mopar (Valiant), then Ford, then GM(Holden). Then British. Euro cars somewhat acceptable, but essentially rich men's wives cars. Sorry to rant about cars, but I feel it's an important part of this culture, if you feel it needs to be defined.

    Auckland • Since Jun 2009 • 35 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Alan P,

    We were, and still are, westies. Never Bogan.

    Very true, Westies, every country with a west coast has them. I think its a Sunrise/Sunset thing. Whereas Bogon, in my humble opinion, is a Culture/Class thing.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Whereas Bogon, in my humble opinion, is a Culture/Class thing.

    That Trotter's picked it up indicates to me that westies, druffs, hoons, chavs, neds, whatever, are all fodder for gentrification. And I'd go with Alan P's guess that bogan is Australian.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Alan P,

    Euro cars somewhat acceptable, but essentially rich men’s wives cars.

    Surely the Bedford van with a semi-clad barbarian woman wreathed in flames spraypainted on the side and padded all-leather interior and massive sound system was not only for the wives?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10653 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Waiheke, during the 70s 80s; there was a bit of Hippy/Bogan cross breeding going on, as I remember.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4414 posts Report Reply

  • Alan P,

    Yes, and a decent Capri also fairly respectable. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that when it comes to cars, Euro means from one of them countries on the continent. The old Alpha Romeo GTV comes to mind.

    Auckland • Since Jun 2009 • 35 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Alan P,

    Ah, I see you listed British separately. Not real Euros. You can't even spend Euros there, they get all silly about it and want literally pounds of money for everything.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10653 posts Report Reply

  • william blake,

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