Up Front by Emma Hart

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Up Front: It's Not Sex, and It's Not Education

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  • James Butler, in reply to James Butler,

    I would be tempted to distort the pseudonymous narrative for that reason, which would kinda negate the point of the exercise.

    Actually, on reflection the problem would more likely be that I'd forget who I was posting as, and accidentally let the cat out of the bag.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2009 • 856 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Megan Wegan,

    I had no idea that wasn’t your real name.

    It’s a nickname I was known by in a particular group of friends some years ago, so I guess that helps me feel that it *is* a real name, just not the only one :-)

    ETA: and I don't mind PAS folk knowing my ordinary name, it's not a secret, I just don't want it googlable as I have a professional presence on the web.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3887 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to James Butler,

    You keep dropping hints. It's intriguing, which I guess means it's working.

    A teaser campaign? Are we back to talking about sex?

    The thrill of the chase, the coquettish, tantalising dropping of hints. Cautious advances, initially rebuffed before yielding in your strong, manly arms...

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart, in reply to Lilith __,

    It’s a nickname I was known by in a particular group of friends some years ago, so I guess that helps me feel that it *is* a real name, just not the only one :-)

    You wouldn't be alone - I flatted with a friend for years who I first met on the interwebz. All of us called her by her internet pseudonym - I still do, in fact, I'm never going to think of her by her real name. (It would get really confusing when her family came to visit and were all "blah blah [flatmate's real name]" and I'd be all "who are you t- oh, right".)

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to BenWilson,

    The name game... sobriquets, bouquets & brickbats

    My pseudonymed personality is a fucking gangster.

    There is a lot of that about... one of the saddest things I ever read on PA was when one of l'il P's P-Personas (IIRC) was called on why he was so confrontational and angry on PA, but largely mild and positive on his own blog (which I can no longer find) and he said "...because my kids read my blog!"

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7892 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Lilith __,

    I’m so used to living in the pseudonym in the PAS context that when Emma invited me round to hers for a party I introduced myself to people as Lilith because that just seemed less confusing. Is that weird?

    Everything about meeting people you’ve conversed with for years for the first time is weird. It’s incredibly odd to experience viscerally seeing someone with whom there is a long shared experience, when the face and voice rings no bells at all. You have to learn all the little nuances of expression afresh, and yet the nuances of discussion are like you get only with old friends, the ability to just slip straight into a discussion you had years ago as if it was yesterday, with little contextualization, and they’ll just take it and run.

    Weird but awesome. Anyone afraid of doing it should consider that it’s quite the eye-opener.

    Also note that often there is a huge difference between their speech and their writing style, and even their approach to speech, and the kind of things they want to talk about can be very different to what they want to write about.

    ETA: I have constant trouble remembering 3410s real name. The pseud is so much more evocative.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10641 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart, in reply to Lilith __,

    I just don’t want it googlable as I have a professional presence on the web.

    Now I think about it, I do recall the nice Fulbright people handing out instructions about our web presence, including the request that we not be obscene on the internet while we were Fulbright recipients. Which...er, well, my PAS presence was established long before I even applied, and I don't think I've got more obscene. Depending upon one's definition of obscene.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Emma Hart,

    An argument between both identities would be fun.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    That was Robbie Siataga/pollywhatsit, not lil p. I believe his blatant disingenuousness prompted a final ban.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart, in reply to Lucy Stewart,

    Now I think about it, I do recall the nice Fulbright people handing out instructions about our web presence, including the request that we not be obscene on the internet while we were Fulbright recipients.

    I got to the word "internet" in the above, and snort-laughed REALLY loudly.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4650 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Lucy Stewart,

    “who are you t- oh, right”

    I never guessed that I’d get so attached to all you folk and that a collision with RL would ever happen!

    And those I have met in person (however briefly) are even more awesome than your pixellated presence had me believe. :-)

    ETA:

    I don’t think I’ve got more obscene. Depending upon one’s definition of obscene.

    LOL!

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3887 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    but sock-puppetry does.

    If you catch my socking my puppet, be sure to point it out.

    You see why I stayed away from this thread. Juvenalia Inflictus.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart, in reply to Emma Hart,

    I got to the word “internet” in the above, and snort-laughed REALLY loudly.

    Remember that these instructions were given by the American State Department. They probably have some legislation requiring people funded by them to not be obscene. In case someone starts complaining that American Taxpayer Dollars Are Funding Obscenity, etcetera.

    (It's not actually an unreasonable request - it boils down to "don't be a dick where and when it can be blamed on us", which, fair enough - but the wording was...memorable.)

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Part of the reason mine's a gangster is because he's my gamer name, and trash talk is legion there. You frag someone, teabag them, and then listen to their furious rapping response, as you camp the spawn point, doling out a few choice comebacks, and then pop them with a head shot as they run for the nearby ammo.

    I have noticed, though, that if you ever actually meet up with other gamerz, they do hold that shit against you. If you're playing against people who are likely to become friends, you have to dial it back.

    I've not felt the need to bring that guy here.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10641 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to recordari,

    Loggins and Messinabout...

    ...Under Two Logins

    Well, it's got a certain "Indian Name"aspect to it
    like "Runs With Scissors" or "Two Dogs Rutting"...*

    Just so long as both of you don't come to loggerheads
    (or would that be a bloggerhead in this case?)

    I fear I am cursed with logorrhea
    and tend towards friendly logomachies...


    *I know, I know, it's apache play on words...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7892 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Also games are the place where I've most enjoyed gender bending - nothing seems to infuriate a kid with some enormous avatar of a hulking vicious orc warrior, to be cut down to size by a small girl, who then dances naked on their corpse, spits on it, and then camps it for a rinse/repeat. I've noticed that claiming to be a girl in an FPS draws out quite determined and vicious attacks, if you indulge in any trash talk and if you prove to be a good player. This can actually be to the team advantage, used properly. And thinking of appropriate trash talk is fun. Girls can cut people down so hard sometimes, it's like having some kind of cheat.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10641 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Sacha,

    ...pollywhatsit, not lil p.

    There ya go, I'd thought they were all the same person
    based on tone, response, the P and style...
    but it was a while ago, great cities have crumbled since....

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7892 posts Report Reply

  • recordari, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Loggins and Messinabout...

    These Canny Loggins would be a highway to the danger-zone, to be sure. But I'm Footloose, so what the hay.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    There ya go, I'd thought they were all the same person

    Yeah me too, till Sacha told me the other day.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10641 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Max Rose,

    Well, it didn't take long for some people to suspect who I am behind this pseudonym

    Somewhere south of 60 seconds from first appearance :-)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22756 posts Report Reply

  • James Butler, in reply to Max Rose,

    Well, it didn't take long for some people to suspect who I am behind this pseudonym

    Well call me a shallow reader and a PAS dilettante, but I for one still have no idea who you are :-)

    Auckland • Since Jan 2009 • 856 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to recordari,

    I'm sure it won't take anyone very long to work it out. The whole Ian D fanboi bit, etc. Not to mention the fact I doubt Russell will let me continue under two logins.

    Or will you? Since you seem to think that would be fun.

    Evs. I need no convincing of your good faith, so what the hell.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22756 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to BenWilson,

    There ya go, I'd thought they were all the same person

    Yeah me too, till Sacha told me the other day.

    Really? Utterly different prose style and MOs. But I suppose I had to interact directly with both of them.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22756 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to BenWilson,

    I could be wrong.

    EDIT: apparently not :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Really? Utterly different prose style and MOs. But I suppose I had to interact directly with both of them.

    Same tone of general trollery, though, at least to the uncritical eye. I was under a similar impression.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

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