Up Front by Emma Hart

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Up Front: First, Come to Your Conclusion

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  • Emma Hart, in reply to Andre Alessi,

    (Although you could probably make a similar case for John of Patmos.)

    LOL.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4620 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart, in reply to Megan Wegan,

    Yeah, no, like I say, I didn’t mean to diss the genre. I actually am interested in why I’m just not interested in it.

    I guess, the difference, is the endorsement of the show’s creator…The officialdom?

    For me, disinterest is often related to how closed-off I feel the story or universe is – if I’m satisfied with the story as it is, I feel no great need to read fanfic. If there are lots of interesting corners or unanswered questions left – or adventures potentially to be had by the characters – I’m there. I can sort of visualise being satisfied with everything I watched or read as presented. I just never managed it myself.

    (Although you could probably make a similar case for John of Patmos.)

    LOL.

    Looked at in a very specific way, the entire New Testament is an unauthorised sequel.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

  • Megan Wegan, in reply to Lucy Stewart,

    I can sort of visualise being satisfied with everything I watched or read as presented. I just never managed it myself.

    I think it is maybe a matter of just not caring enough. Or recognising that were I to slip down that particular rabbit hole, I'd never get back out.

    Welly • Since Jul 2008 • 1275 posts Report Reply

  • bmk,

    I also think there certainly is a place for sequels by different authors. For example I have been a keen reader of the Wheel of Time series and when the author, Robert Jordan, died there was a raging debate among the fandom about whether the series should be completed or not.

    I, along with most readers, were pleased that they chose to complete it with a different author. And the author, Brandon Sanderson, I think has chosen the right path where he said he wouldn't try to mimic Jordan's writing style but would endeavor to stay true to his vision and the notes he left behind.

    Since Jun 2010 • 327 posts Report Reply

  • Andre Alessi, in reply to Emma Hart,

    On television in particular, the “author’s” ideal intentions can be really constrained, particularly (until quite recently) in portraying sexual same-sex relationships.

    Battlestar Galactica did something quite interesting with their webisodes between series that I think (reading between the lines) was for similar reasons. Gaeta's bisexuality wasn't addressed in the broadcast series at all, but in The Face of The Enemy it's a central plot point. They did the same thing with Admiral Cain's relationship with Gina in Razor-it was only alluded to in the broadcast series but it was made canon in the TV movie.

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Lucy Stewart,

    the entire New Testament is an unauthorised sequel

    just imagine the copyright stoush

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19428 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Sacha,

    the entire New Testament is an unauthorised sequel

    just imagine the copyright stoush

    Especially given the vengeful and unforgiving reputation of the original author :-)

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3886 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Emma Hart,

    But you know (committing a little heresy here) that Joss didn’t actually WRITE most of the scripts for his shows, right?

    No, but one thing I don't think he gets enough credit for is what all great showrunners do -- they may have the initial vision, but a great idea doesn't mean much in an intensely collaborative medium like television if you don't have the ability to attract, enthuse and retain a lot of very talented people. I think it was Jane Espenson who paid Whedon (and Ron Moore and Russell T. Davies) the lovely compliment of saying she's worked with people who'd build these worlds she could play in, and discover her own voice and point of view.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12363 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Lilith __,

    the vengeful and unforgiving reputation

    3 smites

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19428 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    like anything else, there are exceptions that prove the rule.

    My personal favourite would be the entire 'Flashman' series - take the villain from 'Tom Brown's Schooldays' and spin him out into his own hugely sucessful, original, and painstakingly historically accurate series.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2708 posts Report Reply

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