Hard News by Russell Brown

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Hard News: The Voyage of a Lifetime

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  • Russell Brown,

    Just to note that I accidentally left Arena Williams off the speaker list.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18666 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Excellent. Impressed by what little I've seen of her.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16444 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed,

    If I'm not much mistaken, the speakers' list are the founder members of the Institute for Policy Initiatives, which is a direct response to the NZBR's takeover of, oops, merger with the NZ Institute:

    "We believe that the need for this independent “think-tank” was created by the recent merger of the New Zealand Institute by the Business Round Table, which meant that a previously unbiased and admired source of intelligent discussion is now subject to an agenda."

    We've also seen a takeover, and I suspect also, its dilution, of the NZBCSD by Biz NZ.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4141 posts Report Reply

  • Sylvie Zlami,

    That's a great initiative and a fantastic opportunity for Aucklanders.
    Any chance of a live stream?

    auckland • Since Dec 2007 • 31 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Graham,

    Good work Rus.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 176 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Sylvie Zlami,

    That’s a great initiative and a fantastic opportunity for Aucklanders.
    Any chance of a live stream?

    I has been discussed, but there's some concern about spoilers for similar events in other centres. I'm keen on it.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18666 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX, in reply to merc,

    Eventually, and it look like a very long eventually, the only way is up.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1184 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Nautical theme? you have my attention!

    Since Nov 2006 • 2562 posts Report Reply

  • Will de Cleene, in reply to DeepRed,

    which is a direct response to the NZBR's takeover of, oops, merger with the NZ Institute

    Yeah, I was a bit disappointed to see the NZ Initiative is just a front for the Centre for Independent Studies in Oz.

    Raumati • Since Jul 2011 • 104 posts Report Reply

  • FletcherB, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I has been discussed

    Egomaniac! :)

    West Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 789 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Folks, if you're thinking of coming along, click through and get your ticket now. It's very nearly full up.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18666 posts Report Reply

  • andin,

    it determines the way we live our lives, but most of us are shut out from discussing it – by language or privilege, or simply because it seems too hard. Thus do assumptions go unchallenged and thus is the debate left to technocrats and their ministers.

    And maybe that is where we are going wrong. This situation has not happened overnight, but over the past few decades economics has risen to becoming a spectre we must all adhere to. And has given rise to an indecipherable language for many.
    While our predecessors on this planet were wrong about one big imponderable (there being a realm of ultimate caring or a god) they understood people and the best way for us to get along was to care for each other on a wider scope than just within a small group or within those who thought along the same lines shared by a common ancestry, not money, ok, economics.
    And how we have f*#ktards like Blinglish and the other one saying its all about appearances John Key was the best Prime Minister in a generation at articulating that confidence.
    So talk it up the little people will understand.
    Cue Tui tag line.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1172 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to andin,

    to care for each other on a wider scope than just within a small group or within those who thought along the same lines shared by a common ancestry

    I'd argue the problem is exactly the opposite - that most of our time as humans has been in small kinship groups and we're still only learning how to function in larger groupings than a clan or village.

    Developing ways to sustainably manage resources is part of that (many cultures have answers), and economics is just a tool that we've allowed to run amok. Time to rein in the money-lenders and those who enable them to prance about with invisible clothes.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16444 posts Report Reply

  • tussock,

    We function perfectly in larger groups, Sacha, we do as everyone else does so as to not be the one who gets burned as a witch for having notably different ideas. Mob mentality. Totally works; not particularly enlightening but.

    It's how advisors end up telling Key what he wants to hear, and how he can't hear things that sound different. So saving half an hour on your holiday drive twice a year is totally worth more than schools and hospitals and such, because no one in that room wants to be the witch.


    Also, economics are awesome. The massive spending increase by the National government since coming into office has certainly saved us from the horrible state of the US and European economies. Y'all probably thought they'd cut spending in real terms, but out here in the world those tax cuts are spending too (in that they're a cut in negative spending). Obviously it creates a less equitable society, rewards only current status rather than anything practical, has mostly served to shift private debt to the public ledger, but people overall are still vastly better off than if they hadn't done it (not as good as if they'd done something productive with it, but they don't believe in governments doing that sort of thing, and the tax system demands rich folk become landlords rather than entrepreneurs).

    Since Nov 2006 • 356 posts Report Reply

  • merc, in reply to tussock,

    Thank you Tussock that is a very insightful comment.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Angus Robertson, in reply to Russell Brown,

    And it is now fulled up, which is a bit of a shame.

    Auckland • Since May 2007 • 984 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd, in reply to tussock,

    Y’all probably thought they’d cut spending in real terms, but out here in the world those tax cuts are spending too (in that they’re a cut in negative spending).

    Well, I saved my tax cut, and most of it’s piling up in a Kiwibank cash PIE, so it’s being lent to someone to buy a house or perhaps get consumer goods on credit. It’s churning through the economy, in an unplanned way. Productive? Depends on your definition, I suspect.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2932 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to Sacha,

    we’re still only learning how to function in larger groupings than a clan or village.

    Depends who your referring too. Most have had at least a couple of thousand years to get their mind around it. Does that mean we're slow learners or just normal?
    Im not against economics, no ideological objection at all, as you and others say it has just got out of hand.... literally.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1172 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Dunbar is stil relevant when you look at how groups of humans regulate group decisions.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16444 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Sacha,

    This more recent publication extract might also help explain where I'm coming from above.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16444 posts Report Reply

  • andin,

    A good starting point but at some stage we have to accept, maybe understand in a wider sense our biological imperatives, and come to accept and value individual variation in a society. Not say this is the individual norm based on a single grouping's ideas you have to fit in.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1172 posts Report Reply

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