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Hard News: So far from trivial

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  • steven crawford,

    1000th

    Since Nov 2006 • 2751 posts Report Reply

  • Deborah,

    Not that we're counting.

    Manawatu City • Since Nov 2006 • 1323 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    That's got to be cheating..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16771 posts Report Reply

  • Yamis,

    While we're on porn names mines Maggie Flanshaw. I guess I'm a cross dresser when in action.

    Please ignore what I just wrote.

    Please.

    Shep, Veitch is mortgaged up pretty hard going by an article in the DomPost the other day. $20,000 a month to make payments. He earnt 700,000 a year, minus tax and he would still have had plenty left over for trips to Fiji but could certainly not afford to lose all his jobs at once I would have thought.

    This has wound up costing him a lot more than 150,000.

    Since Nov 2006 • 876 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Shep, thanks for the pointer. That Mediawatch story is good (podcast, 9.7Mb): http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/mwatch/mwatch-20080720-0905-Mediawatch-048.mp3

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16771 posts Report Reply

  • Yamis,

    Steve and Steven, that was like pushing somebody out of the way to take the match winning catch and then fumbling it before hanging on.

    Still, a wins a win.

    Since Nov 2006 • 876 posts Report Reply

  • robbery,

    and enough people committing the effort needed to keep a conversation going.

    I was thinking bored people with nothing better to do than talk about the crimes of famous people but i like the sound of yours better.

    You know, the issue that has most touched the PA nerve

    hmm, I recall a chunk of this being about estrogen fueled marriage, not exactly on topic,

    me, I like the number 1000, I secretly wanted that honor but I bow to sofie's greater stay power

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Full credit to the team.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16771 posts Report Reply

  • robbery,

    ah, the start of the 51st page is 1000. crawford, you sneak, sofie, hand over the medal, the man won it unfair and square
    personally 981 ain't a bad number,

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    excessive cash (mental hop, skip & jump) was it for P?

    That is where my head space was going quite some time back. A bit of experience goes a long way if it is over many years. Growing up here makes me often consider drugs in the equation.P is a drug that has a common thread in the media.It really does reveal a hideous psychosis.I'm pretty tolerant of out of it types but after watching P in action, It is not something I can do.You only need 2 things to set a P freak off. That's paranoia and paranoia.
    Guess I 'm late huh?

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6268 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Actually, steve landed on the thousand, with his 1001th, remarkably.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2751 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Here's a bit psycho-babble, as an alternative to the P theory.

    Manic defence "Form of defensive behavior ... exhibited by persons who defend themselves against anxiety, guilt and depression by (a)
    denial of guilt, anxiety and depression, (b) the operation of a phantasy
    of omnipotent control ... (c) identification with objects from whom a sense of power can be borrowed, (d) projection of 'bad' aspects of the self on others. Manic defences purchase freedom from guilt and anxiety at the expense of depth of character and appreciation of the motives and feelings of others" (Rycroft).

    Since Nov 2006 • 2751 posts Report Reply

  • Julie Fairey,

    I heard the tail end of a woman from Preventing Violence in the Home on the radio the other day talking about domestic violence and she reckoned that it was quite rare for someone to just out of the blue commit serious violence of this nature, usually there was some escalation and other lower level violence first (possibly with other people, in different contexts, whatever). Didn't hear the whole thing though.

    Things like that radio interview and this thread did prompt me to help poor Mr Holmes out with his interviews, by suggesting a few questions he possibly, you know maybe, if he felt like it, could have asked Veitch.

    Orcland • Since Dec 2007 • 217 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Thanks, Julie. I like the way your commenter Anna McM put it:

    If Veitch is trying to reform himself, being surrounded by apologist turds like Holmes won't be helping much.

    I think those who want some "balance" need to reflect that Tony is not doing himself any favours long term either. He does deserve at least the possibility of redemption, after he has owned up like a real man would.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16771 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    usually there was some escalation and other lower level violence first

    I wonder how he treated pets?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16771 posts Report Reply

  • Yamis,

    He had a minor physcical altercation with Willie Lose at a radio sport christmas party. I forget if it was 2007 or 2006.

    Leg Break will know, he can consult his scrapebook.

    I think it was along the lines of them winding each other up and Veitch throwing one and running. Again somebody else can correct that but that was roughly how it was relayed at the time and how it appeared in the media the other day.

    Since Nov 2006 • 876 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Yamis, I love the idea of a "scrapebook" for recording them altercations. However, I'm imagining Lose ain't no chihuahua?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16771 posts Report Reply

  • WH,

    Why can't these people bring themselves to condemn an act of violence against a woman lying on the floor?

    Endless repetition is not going to turn that into a valid criticism. Stop circling the bandwagons.

    At some point the denunciation of celebrity offending becomes self-gratification, conjecture and trial by media. I would suggest that point has been reached.

    Since Nov 2006 • 604 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    I see no ones interested in the other gossip re the valentines day visit 2 weeks later. that was from an unnamed source, printed in a newspaper, so it must be true.

    Even if it is true, it doesn't make the assault any less horrible.

    I see what they're trying to do by leaking this information: it's pretty transparently an attempt to say that the assault wasn't actually that bad, because she was still all lovey-dovey at him on Valentine's Day. Of course, abused people often continue unhealthy contact with their abusers even after serious assaults have taken place. So, you know, shrug. They were both clearly in a fucked-up mental place.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3661 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    As far as I'm concerned, Raybon JKan still has quite a long way to go to redeem himself after his column(s) around the time of the Rickards/Schollum pack-rape stuff.

    The tone of his writing around the time of those verdicts was along the lines of "oh, isn't this a lot of fuss about nothing very important. What an over-reaction. Rape isn't all that bad. I can certainly squeeze a couple of hundred jokey words out about this."

    So he's still got quite some way to go, as far as I'm concerned.

    A good start, though.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Hi all -- you may notice I've deleted several posts making a certain speculation about Veitch. Perhaps you could stay off that. It's one thing to comment on news stories, another to make stuff up.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18968 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    double plus, good big bro! :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6268 posts Report Reply

  • robbery,

    Even if it is true, it doesn't make the assault any less horrible.

    who said anything about less horrible, I said spicy.
    also see WH post above yours. you can't see my original post cos apparently i said something controversial although I was merely commenting on a legitimate newspaper article from our favourite unnamed sauce (source) which inferred what I said, unlike the P habit comments which I'm pretty sure I haven't seen unnamed source mention.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Thanks, Julie. I like the way your commenter Anna McM put it

    Wellington owes Dunedin for us letting her go up there. There were plots to prevent y'know.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6205 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Endless repetition is not going to turn that into a valid criticism.

    It's already a "valid" criticism, WH - is just the acknowledgement of that from some that is still lacking. Not OK means Not OK. You're the one who isn't getting that.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16771 posts Report Reply

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