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Speaker: Are we seeing the end of MSM, and is that a good thing?

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  • John Farrell,

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    Oh no!

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 442 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

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    According to The Press we still have a law against 'blashpemy'!!
    God save us...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7565 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell,

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    The Herald, doing what it does best.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 442 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    More an observation than anything... the Herald is testing a new site design. I'm not sure about the huge LHS nav bar taking up a quarter of the screen. It's apparently designed primarily for mobiles.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1328 posts Report Reply

  • Brent Jackson,

    It is ghastly to use on a PC. So much so, I am not going to bother any more.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 596 posts Report Reply

  • kw, in reply to Brent Jackson,

    That was the feedback I gave them. It's like the online version of tabloid v broadsheet but worse.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2014 • 30 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Alfie,

    testing a new site design.

    The beta seems to have subsumed the original - as I can no longer get anything but the stark beta.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7565 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    I can't seem to find a suitable thread so I will post this naked promotion here:

    Auckland folk may be interested in catching a film I co-produced, screening as part of Doc Edge Auckland this Friday at Q Theatre (in Shorts 2, 2.30pm June 2). I will probably do a Q&A after the screening, explaining how this natty little film evolved, whilst its creator Nick Homler was a Fulbright Scholar at Waikato in 2015-16. It is a celebration of small, independent cinemas in New Zealand, and the people who run them.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2503 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    ...and its name is:
    The Reel People of New Zealand
    see:
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1705/S00095/fulbright-scholars-film-selected-for-prestigious-festival.htm
    and
    http://docedge.nz/film/the-reel-people-of-new-zealand/

    sadly the documentary festival does not venture beyond the North Island

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7565 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Many thanks, Ian. I obviously left off the important bit. I am a bit of twit sometimes!
    I am exploring the possibly of further screening around the country, especially in those cinemas which feature in the film.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2503 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell,

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    Engrish as she is spoke.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 442 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    further screening around the country, especially in those cinemas which feature in the film

    that would be very cool

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19428 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell,

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    Mixed metaphors from the Herald.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 442 posts Report Reply

  • Brent Jackson,

    Even RadioNZ is not immune :

    It is the first time two New Zealanders have shared the winners' podium since Bruce McLaren and Bruce Amon's triumph in 1966.

    Is your name not Bruce then ?
    No, It's Chris.
    Mind if we call you Bruce to save confusion ?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 596 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell,

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    I don't think that's quite the word they meant......

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 442 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to John Farrell,

    plonkers...
    'in vino veritas' perhaps

    I see they've fixed that link box now - but in keeping with the general ethos of 'can't be bothered' they haven't fixed it in the story!

    ...but I honestly don’t believe the route to wellbeing is through depravation and that a physical-only focus gives us all we need. Attending to all four elements of wellbeing is far more progressive, effective and sustainable.

    <my bold>

    There's also the finer points of whether they are talking about 'privation' or 'deprivation' and did they really mean 'denial' - as deprivation and its de-less version relate to 'necessities' of life.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7565 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

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    plus plonk…
    The new NZ Herald site is clunky – they’ve hidden the links to the regional papers off to the side, (no link on their NZME network box at the bottom either) and I note the Hawke’s Bay Today page has a lot less stories on offer – with seemingly no way to browse older stories.
    Perhaps one can pay something to get better access?

    Not to mention their annoying penchant for ‘doubling down’ on stories (as pictured above)

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7565 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    The new NZ Herald site is clunky

    Clunky... yes. Another description would be horrible. Not only have many older stories magically vanished, but they've broken handy links such as the one I used to view Steve Braunias' stories. It's pretty easy to redirect those types of links while users adapt to a new site, but the Herald haven't bothered.

    I usually adapt well to site makeovers as long as usability isn't degraded. But as one who previously visited the Herald site several times a day, I find the emphasis on larger images with far fewer headlines frustrating. Since the redesign I no longer go there.

    I truly hope The Herald site looks stunning on the mobile phones it's designed for, because it sure as hell looks crap on my 24" widescreen monitors.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1328 posts Report Reply

  • Brent Jackson, in reply to Alfie,

    I too am now never visiting the Herald site, whereas I was previously a daily visitor. You've got to wonder at how much their traffic has fallen since the makeover.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 596 posts Report Reply

  • linger,

    Consider also that most newspaper readers are now approaching, or past, the age when reading glasses become a necessity, and the Herald's focus on design for small screens to the exclusion of all else seems suicidal.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1765 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Alfie,

    It's pretty easy to redirect those types of links while users adapt to a new site, but the Herald haven't bothered.

    I believe they'll be progressively importing their massive archive of content to the new CMS system they're using, is all.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19428 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    their annoying penchant for ‘doubling down’ on stories

    Ex-RNZ digital guru Richard Hulse mentions that in his thorough and geeky review of the new site.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19428 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell,

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    News must be short today.....

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 442 posts Report Reply

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