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  • Russell Brown,

    It was fun last night watching #outrageous tweets show up on TrendsMap -- biggest in Auckland, but right down the country, and in the Australian cities and in London.

    It was trending No.1 at about 11pm -- which resulted in:

    (a) People in South America and elsewhere thinking that #outrageous was about something else altogether and using it with the outrageous things they said.

    (b) Twitter spam galore using #outrageous

    The people running the official Outrageous Fortune Twitter account were beside themselves, although I think they may have been drinking.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22747 posts Report Reply

  • kmont,

    The people running the official Outrageous Fortune Twitter account were beside themselves, although I think they may have been drinking.

    It would be unprofessional not to frankly.

    wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 485 posts Report Reply

  • kmont,

    I didn't even bother hashtagging, figured *everyone* would know what I was taking about.

    wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 485 posts Report Reply

  • richard,

    The poor job TV dramas usually make of portraying sex has always surprised me as well, given how accurate they are with everything else.

    (I, for instance, used to live in a New York apartment at least as nice as the one on Friends.).

    Not looking for New Engla… • Since Nov 2006 • 268 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    I didn't even bother hashtagging, figured *everyone* would know what I was taking about.

    I did actually pause last night trying to work out what hash-tag I should be using. The agony of the early adopter...

    The poor job TV dramas usually make of portraying sex has always surprised me as well, given how accurate they are with everything else.

    (I, for instance, used to live in a New York apartment at least as nice as the one on Friends.).

    Ooh, ooh, I know this one! That's sarcasm, isn't it? I've been hearing about that...

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4650 posts Report Reply

  • kmont,

    Well previously I was using my own taxonomy (who gives a shit what other people are calling things ;-)

    #OF!OF!OF!

    wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 485 posts Report Reply

  • richard,

    Ooh, ooh, I know this one! That's sarcasm, isn't it? I've been hearing about that...

    Like many people, I am occasionally a little bit sarky. But you say it almost like it's a bad thing :-)

    Not looking for New Engla… • Since Nov 2006 • 268 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    I'm not going to promise, or even ask, that the comment thread be that way. What you read from this point on is your own responsibility.

    I'm one of those annoying (and sometime, annoyed) people who doesn't feel they can watch something from halfway, or miss out bits in the middle. Just feels wrong.

    Hence, being late catching onto Outrageous Fortune, I own series 1 - 4, but didn't get 4 and watch it until 5 was part way through. Hence I've ignored the fact that 5 is on, as there's no way I could jump.

    No doubt when 5 is out, I won't have money, and 6 will start before I get to buy it.

    This is all by way of explanation, that this will be the first PAS thread (including the copyright one), that I won't follow religiously. Umm, Emma broke the internet, or something.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    There's a sex scene (of all things) American Pie that I thought was quite realistic. It was the couple's first time and they awkward and not quite sure what to do and then it was over quickly.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    Would you make an exception for HBO dramas such as Six Foot Under or True Blood? The sex in the latter is pretty damn spot-on (or so I have been told!)

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2537 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    The sex in the latter is pretty damn spot-on (or so I have been told!)

    What, you mean with the neck-biting and the blood drinking and the sharp! pointed! teeth! and the 'crawling out of the ground covered in soil' and all that?

    And I've lost count of the number of times a third party has emptied the contents of a rubbish bag over my head mid-coitus.

    Yep, pretty spot on, I reckon.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Jed Soane,

    There's a sex scene (of all things) American Pie that I thought was quite realistic. It was the couple's first time and they awkward and not quite sure what to do and then it was over quickly.

    I'm still practicing to make sure my first time isn't like that.

    Wellington • Since Feb 2009 • 15 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Would you make an exception for HBO dramas such as Six Foot Under or True Blood? The sex in the latter is pretty damn spot-on (or so I have been told!)

    Yeah, True Blood was one of the cable shows I had in mind there. I wonder if, though, the separation, the attitude that 'sex and violence goes on cable' is one of the things contributing to the increasingly strange wowserism of normal US prime time tv. ie You can do it over there, so we don't have to let you do it here. It gets really peculiar sometimes, and Two and a Half Men seems to be a really good example. The characters talk about sex constantly, but Charlie, the ultimate he-whore, is always shown in bed in a t-shirt, boxers, and sometimes socks.

    This is the kind of thing I think about when I can't sleep.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4650 posts Report Reply

  • James Butler,

    Would you make an exception for HBO dramas such as Six Foot Under or True Blood?

    The most disturbing sex scene in Six Feet Under has no sex or nudity in it at all, just... nuzzling.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2009 • 856 posts Report Reply

  • Jolisa,

    Not to mention The L Word, although I guess that falls under your umbrella of "A couple of U.S. cable-only shows and British gay-specific dramas aside..." A refreshing antidote to the usual fare, although (see Richard) not necessarily the most accurate televisual depiction of LA sapphistry and/or real estate afforded by freelance writers and modern art curators.

    Children might be watching and we wouldn’t want them to get corrupted by nipples.

    Heh. Both of my children were corrupted by nipples; exclusively till 6 months and thereafter on demand.

    Auckland, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 1472 posts Report Reply

  • Jolisa,

    and sometimes socks.

    Business socks?

    Auckland, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 1472 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    What, you mean with the neck-biting and the blood drinking and the sharp! pointed! teeth! and the 'crawling out of the ground covered in soil' and all that?

    Well, they are vampires--and I don't know whether they wear socks.

    As Bill and Sookie are an item in 'real life', I think there is a degree of verisimiliitude in their sex scenes.

    I take your point, Emma, re HBO and American network TV. By some coincidence, I did a lecture today on HBO as 'transgressive' television, quoting both David Chase ("I had had it up to here with all the niceties of network television...I don't mean language and I don't mean violence. I just mean storytelling, inventiveness, something that really could entertain and surprise people" ) and Janet McCabe & Kim Akass in Quality TV 2007 ("HBO is conscious of defying television convention, adopting a tone with their original programming that makes it obvious that they know they are being openly transgressive"

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2537 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    I'm a non-Outrageous watcher, but I knew something major had gone down when I was checking Twitter this morning and found a succession of "Fuuuuuuuuuuuck!" comments from late last night.

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart,

    There's a sex scene (of all things) American Pie that I thought was quite realistic. It was the couple's first time and they awkward and not quite sure what to do and then it was over quickly.

    Glee, of all things, has also had a couple of quasi-sex scenes of this character. Given the show's demographic, I doubt we'll ever see more than quasi-, but still.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Not to mention The L Word, although I guess that falls under your umbrella of "A couple of U.S. cable-only shows and British gay-specific dramas aside..."

    Originally a long rambling paragraph that mentioned The L Word and Queer as Folk by name, then I thought about Torchwood, tried to go for 'anything Russell Davies touched', then my brain went off on a long digression about the peculiar nature of sex in Dr Who, and I felt the whole thing was best edited out.

    I've got a number of friends who've never watched OF, and I try not to rant about how great it is too much because I know how off-putting that can be. It was years before I could get over the hype and start watching Battlestar Galactica.

    But every year when a new series of OF starts, I get all worried that this year they'll have lost their touch, that the writing just can't keep going on at that standard.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4650 posts Report Reply

  • JoJo,

    Not to mention The L Word

    Do you mean that The L Word has realistic sex scenes? Not in my queer world. It may be a little more realistic than some shows, but it's still essentially Emma's "one attractive woman and one attractive [wo]man, aged between twenty and forty". It's so sanitised and well-manicured - doesn't sound like any lesbian sex I've ever (ahem) seen.

    But, yes, many thanks to Outrageous Fortune for bringing real sex (and swearing) to the screen!

    Wellington • Since Jul 2008 • 95 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    The characters talk about sex constantly, but Charlie, the ultimate he-whore, is always shown in bed in a t-shirt, boxers, and sometimes socks.

    This is the standard apparel of male porno stars. I don't think the joke is lost on 50% of the audience. I see coded references to hetero porn for men in that show every time I have the misfortune to be subjected to it.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10630 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    Glee, of all things

    Oh god, have I missed the beginning of that series? FAIL.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie,

    . . . gleefully set fire to it like you would a wanker's townhouse.

    Excellent, very excellent.
    Though you'd probably need to bring your own accelerant as it'd be a bit, you know, soggy.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark,

    Oh god, have I missed the beginning of that series? FAIL.

    It's coming soon to TV3, Danielle. PASS

    And I have to admit that I made the decision early on not to watch OF. I can't remember why. I now regret that decision.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report Reply

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