Hard News: So far from trivial
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Funny you should mention "twat"
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Well, revolutionary though it might be we could just accept that we all have these bits that work in both wonderful and functional ways and get over it and not denigrate or elevate each other on the basis of what we look like instead of how we behave and what we are.
But isn't part of the point with Lisa Lewis that we're not commenting on her actual bits, but on her decision to have those bits cosmetically altered to meet market expectations? I really did think they looked sore and overstuffed, which presumably wasn't the desired outcome.
I should say I have no quarrel with Ms Lewis. She has a kid to raise and rent to pay, like the rest of us. It's just that the show is 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
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Jill, Lisa Lewis is a female model.
She WANTS people to look at her, judge her appearance and then make some money out of it. THAT is how she is trying to make a buck. In the same way that a playboy centre-fold wants men (and possibly women) to ogle at her breasts and other parts and hopefully like them so she can get more work presumably. Thats WHY people are watching the tv show and buying the mags and dvds, and going to the strip club, and cruising k-rd at certain hours.
Saying the news reading is hopeless and saying the breasts are ugly are BOTH personal opinions. You just seem to take offence to one and not the other for some reason. I am a secondary school teacher, I am generally more insulted by students criticising the way a lesson is run or something I said far more than a cheap shot about my hair or clothes (and yeah, these days you get it all).
Anyway, on the curse words.
When I was in Korea I knew many North Americans as friends and colleagues. They were all surprised that we use the word 'cunt' to describe men. To them it is the ultimate insult to a women. I don't remember even hearing it used as a word to describe women in NZ before that point.
These days it has become a form of endearment amongst many males as somebody has stated already. I think we over analyse some things way the fuck too much at times. Yours truly certainly guilty of it at times.
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But isn't part of the point with Lisa Lewis that we're not commenting on her actual bits,
But she's displaying those bits to entice viewers to tune in. I've seen the show too (Grand Opening Night) and there is no other reason for the show's existence other than to pander to the prurience of a certain sector of the TV audience.
Even so, I'd be very surprised if anyone was watching it regularly.
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And I go to stuff.co.nz and find an example immediately without even looking for one.
What exactly is Ana Ivanovic (world womens tennis number 1) trying to trade on here? I don't see a tennis racket anywhere. She's given the green light for people to discuss her physical appearance as she is attempting to boost her profile, and bank account along with it.
http://www.faniq.com/blog/Ana-Ivanovic-Photos-From-August-FHM-UK-Magazine-Blog-10080
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the fact that anyone is making a
decision to have those bits cosmetically altered to meet market expectations?
is the good discussion to be having. But sadly, as it really gets interesting I really have to go.
It's really normal (as in lotsof people do it ) to comment on other's appearance. Because it's "normal" it's the stuff we need to think about. "Normal" ie what most people do is what gives us the society we've got at any one time. Abusers and all.
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Isn't it human instinct to find a mate based on a level of physical attraction?
I don't argue that for some people it's more important than others but even for people at the lower end of the scale there is still surely some consideration of the other persons appearance.
Even relatively primitive cultures (ie. the one found in the Amazon recently) 'decorated' males and females differently. I don't think they get the entertainment channel on SKY.
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Well, revolutionary though it might be we could just accept that we all have these bits that work in both wonderful and functional ways and get over it and not denigrate or elevate each other on the basis of what we look like instead of how we behave and what we are.
She wasn't giving a lecture on the works of Nadine Gordimer at the Sorbonne, she was reading the news naked on the telly. Pausing to consider the context would surely be helpful before directing one's squire to fetch the high horse.
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In our kulture where we have 'Supermodels' and reality TV shows about the lucrative 'profession' of modeling I can't condem her too much.
It was all tasteful in bikinis and the like. It's purpose is another thing though.
18-21 my sport was surfboats where the uniform was a pair of speedos worn in the style of a G-string & getting nude and taking photos was pretty normal (sober or drunk). We were young - if anyone would have given us cash for it I would have taken it too.
Early 90s I knew a couple of guys who stripped, but that was too much for most of us & they were odd anyway.
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She wasn't giving a lecture on the works of Nadine Gordimer at the Sorbonne . . .
Dunno about Nadine Gordimer, but if she delivered a treatise on Foucault while in the nuddy she's be a shoo-in for an honorary doctorate.
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When I was in Korea I knew many North Americans as friends and colleagues. They were all surprised that we use the word 'cunt' to describe men. To them it is the ultimate insult to a women. I don't remember even hearing it used as a word to describe women in NZ before that point.
These days it has become a form of endearment amongst many males as somebody has stated already. I think we over analyse some things way the fuck too much at times. Yours truly certainly guilty of it at times.
I'm told that the Back of the Y guys went to their producers earlier this year to tell them the title of their proposed follow-up to The Devil Dared Me To.
Which was ... Hard Cunts.
Here in New Zealand, we understand that, in context, to be affectionate slang for risk-taking, mutually loyal males.
The rest of the world? Not so much ...
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Dunno about Nadine Gordimer, but if she delivered a treatise on Foucault while in the nuddy she's be a shoo-in for an honorary doctorate.
Only in France.
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It's really normal (as in lotsof people do it ) to comment on other's appearance. Because it's "normal" it's the stuff we need to think about.
I do understand the point you're making. But in this context, it was actually relevant.
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What exactly is Ana Ivanovic (world womens tennis number 1) trying to trade on here? I don't see a tennis racket anywhere. She's given the green light for people to discuss her physical appearance as she is attempting to boost her profile, and bank account along with it.
I'm totally relaxed abut sportspeople being media sex symbols (cf: Dan Carter).
They generally have amazing bodies and move gracefully, and that makes them good to look at -- the Greeks understood that. Indeed, I suspect it is still a major motivation for watching the Olympics ...
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Back on (a) topic, now that it seems he threw her down some stairs, went down the bottom, kicked the hell out of her and then left her there for 6 hours unconscious I feel much better. I thought he'd done something really bad, but it was clearly just a spur of the moment thing where he made a bad decision for 21,600 seconds.
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now that it seems he threw her down some stairs, went down the bottom, kicked the hell out of her and then left her there for 6 hours unconscious I feel much better. I thought he'd done something really bad, but it was clearly just a spur of the moment thing where he made a bad decision for 21,600 seconds.
not wanting to question "unknown unnamed source" or why I shouldn't take everything written in the paper as absolute fact lets work a time line shall we. it may add up.
3 hrs in hospital before he went to his radio job. (anyone knows when that starts?)
6 hrs in unconscious down stairs.
30 mins approx to take her to hospital
2 hrs arguing
xx mins to eat a dinner?
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Robbery,
In the studio by 5 a.m apparently.
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Back on (a) topic, now that it seems he threw her down some stairs, went down the bottom, kicked the hell out of her and then left her there for 6 hours unconscious I feel much better.
Assuming the Herald has got things correct there, that's an astounding story. That's not just violence, which is terrible. That's a complete failure of his humanity. Fucked up.
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Well Sherlock ;)
His radio show starts about 6am. I think he needs to get up sometime around 3 or 4am to get in and prepare so presume he would have gone from the hospital around then.
Subtracting that the incident may or may not have been sometime around the early evening with the trip to hospital sometime after midnight.
I expect to be quoted in tomorrows newspaper.
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so if its a midnight tripto the hospital, and she was on the floor for 6 hrs and they argued for 2 hrs then that's a dinner time round about 4pm. these media types sure do keep strange eating hours.
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these media types sure do keep strange eating hours.
If you got up at 3 or 4 in the morning, you probably would too.
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any one got a plan to his house?
is it 2 story?
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There's a simple answer to that :)
I wouldn't get up at 4 in the morning. -
They said "up to" 6 hours (and the 2 hours arguing may be a fair bit less) so it may have been 5 and a half or whatever, but whether it was 6 minutes or 6 hours its unfreakenbelievable.
For the record though we often eat at about 5:20. I know this because I seem to be stuffing my face at the dinner table as deal or no deal culminates. I have to watch the news on prime because bubs gets control of the TV from 6 until bedtime.
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any one got a plan to his house?
is it 2 story?
is the living area and kitchen on the top story?
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