Exit Planet Dust came out in 1995. If you were, say, 20 then, you’re 35 now, heading towards 36.
And if you’re 20 now, you would have been 5 years old when Exit Planet Dust Came out. It would be the equivalent of a 20-year-old Robyn or Jack seeing The Human League live in 1995. (Man, that would have been weird to have seen amongst all the crunchy guitar and jangly pop I was feasting on back then).
Then, somehow, there was a change. The things in the packet were just chips, and the things in the newspaper were hot chips, or also just chips.
I missed this whole linguistic shift. I noted with surprise a friend of mine, only a year or so younger, explaining to her English husband that 'crisps' should be known henceforth as 'cold chips' (as they are moving to NZ in September and he needs to be edjimicated in the local lingo). She is from the North Island, and I am from the South Island - could that be the difference?
And here was me still calling them chips, and sometimes (to my children usually) chippies. The kind of chips to be eaten with fish I also just call chips. I never really found that confusing.
Damian - thanks for the update on international viewing. I'll certainly keep an eye on Youtube.
I have to say, small consolation that it may be, the shows that TVNZ 7 makes (yours and Russell's) are the only ones I have made an effort to regularly watch since I left NZ. I would certainly pay for access to a NZ equivalent of the BBC's planned international access for a fee Iplayer app, if I could access TVNZ 7. The rest of TVNZ's current lineup I could care less about. I didn't watch it, or TV3 for about 2-3 years before I left and TVNZ 7 was not up and running at the time.
@Ben - thanks mate - hey can you flick me your email address via feedback, I'll send you a secret wee link you can have a look at until they sort out the YouTube thing. I ain't gonna stand in the way of people who want to see my show!
@Gio - I'm being realistic - if full-time lobbyists can't convince the ideologues in cabinet, what chance do I have? Which is not to say I'm not going to stir up a bit of shit if I can, we all know John Key's nothing if not malleable to the prevailing public mood...
The Chemical Brothers, on the other hand, that’s totally old-person music. Dad-electronica
Just to add to the chips/chippie thing - our very old Edmonds Cookbook has a recipe for your own home-made chippies. They're called Saratoga chips.
The things in the packet were just chips, and the things in the newspaper were hot chips, or also just chips.
With the rise of American-influenced fast food outlets, "fries" would also be more familiar to the younger (without the "french" prefix that marks the older).
That I think is one of the wonderful things about the TVNZ 7, that we get to make television for no other reason than because we think it will be good. No focus groups, ratings, sponsorship commitments and so forth. Which is not to say stuff on the other channels isn't good, there's just a lot more emphasis on mass-produced-proven-ratings-winning shows. - DC
Well done. Can't help thinking that, with good promo, it would have killed on ONe. (I know, it never would have happened).
Lush has proved - has he not? - that local/historical is a ratings winner. I hope an "encore screening" on ONe is being considered.
Unfortunately, this week it has been announced (although still no official press release that I can see) the Government won't be funding TVNZ 7 any more. Shitballs. So I guess that's probably the end of that. - DC
Just gutted to hear that.
But, y'know, it ain't over till it's over. - RB
Keep us up to date with that, if you would, including what ordinary viewers can do to help reverse the decision.
that’s totally old-person music
I noted on Twitter at the time that - much like the Pixies last year - there were pretty large numbers of heavily pregnant women in their 30s at that show. I kept running into different ones in the upstairs loos. When the pregnant peeps show out in force, that is the very definition of Old People Music. (However, I imagine that even Teh Yoof might have agreed that the giant galloping origami horse animation was bitchin'.)
Oh, I see that OLD PEOPLE MUSIC is yoofing up it's demographic. Old People Music - the Chemical Bros? Really? Jesus H Christ, my girl. I get older and older as the days go by if my preferred listening music is anything to go by.
Exit Planet Dust came out in 1995. If you were, say, 20 then, you're 35 now, heading towards 36. Hello me. Time moves quietly in the background, and it's easy to think "hey, that only came out recently" and then realise that you mean it was 16 years ago.
The Chemical Brothers, on the other hand, that's totally old-person music. Dad-electronica
If I told you that my copy is on vinyl, would it help? Is vinyl cool again yet?
I'm gonna keep on rockin' forever! forever.....forever.....forever.....forever.
Pfft. Vinyl is for people who don't have the ear to appreciate MP3 compression artefacts.
Old People's Music: Lemon Jelly used to do shows in midafternoon, so all their friends with young kids could come along. Awesome.
I noted on Twitter at the time that – much like the Pixies last year – there were pretty large numbers of heavily pregnant women in their 30s at that show.
Yes! Pregnant women and bald men - it's the new demographic for '90s survivors like the Chemical Bros and Pixies. Cool-mum and cool-dad music.
Oh, I love Lemon Jelly. And I've never met another Kiwi who even knew who they were!
Damn, I should have noticed this earlier. A great venture, Damion. It too fits with my interests. I am currently incorporating material from my www.historyoftvinnz.com blog into a book chapter and I will certainly add in this new research source.
Hindsight most beneficial.
The lack of foresight in National overturning the ban on unhealthy food in tuckshops is their sticking with part of the mandate they obviously feel they were elected with being, “any problem facing the country (you) is your problem and not theirs”.
Ensuring fresh fruit and other healthy foods in schools would assist in saving future health dollars through creating an society with better eating habits. Schools will hopefully continue with the policy.
As one who has often pondered, “What is it that causes my pie addiction?”
I am now actively in recovery and after following the program from the Pastry Addicts Support Group I am happy to report that I have gone 18 days without pastry.
TVNZ7 will still be TVNZ7 if it has advertising. Presumably the demographic will keep the complete shit out. And it seems like running costs are quite low, so just deal with a few less minutes of awesomeness per hour, and we don’t need to lose the great programming we’re now enjoying.
(Or go PBS-style pledge-drive. Or convince the central government to continue funding it, good luck with that.)
Chemical Brothers were good this time, but were properly great last time they were down. Why the difference? Because it was almost exactly the same show, and frankly I expected something new, if not in the music, then in the stage show. The clowns are ace, the screen is great, but let’s get more new stuff in there next time shall we?
Also, seemed weird that they saved the very best of that amazing lighting cylinder thing until after the music stopped.
Must admit that the south Southern preference for potato chips (in pkts – and hey, I only canvass my family & friends) is probably because of the advent of corn chips et al…
incidentally, there is a really good southern brand of potato chips called “Heartland Potato Chips”, based in Timaru. We love ’em*
*disclaimer: I have absolutely NOTHING to do with the company, the spud growers, or anyone else connected with the whole shebang. They’re just taaassty-
Came across Heartland Potato Chips for the first time when I was home for Christmas - they are indeed lush.
Are they anything to do with Makikihi Fries? Have a vague recollection that they took over from Smiths Crisps. But I have a rubbish memory.
Actually, I now see it isn't, as Heartland use the old Bluebird factory locally. BUT! whatever happened to Smiths Crisps anyway? Did they turn into Makikihi? At least in part?
Smiths just sort of faded off the shelves...there were rumours that the Makikihi factory had been taken over, but - given they have an advertising campaign (found in takeaways south only as far as I can ascertain) promoting their chips, I think they're still producing 'em...maybe a change of ownership?
Almost OT - if you ever get a chance to buy new Heather potatoes (grown mainly in Waimate as far as the whanau knows), grab it. Superior to Jersey Bennes: better than Red Kings.
Unfortunately, this week it has been announced (although still no official press release that I can see) the Government won’t be funding TVNZ 7 any more. Shitballs. So I guess that’s probably the end of that. – DC
TVNZ 6 seems to have disappeared off sky. It's got a forward saying that their programmes are now showing on tnvz 7 (sky 77). That seemed to happen awfully fast?
John Drinnan's article mentions that TVNZ6 has gone this week. So sad as it had some great programmes. I disagree with Damian that this is the norm for media so get used to it. I like a bit of security thanks, and would happily pay a broadcasting tax to keep public service ad-free TV.
And I mean free-to-air as well (of course).
Vinyl is for people who don't have the ear to appreciate MP3 compression artefacts.
teeshirt (for ageing hispters to wear to gigs, naturally)
new Heather potatoes
Mm. Ta. My Irishness appreciates this information.
Is this new modernspeak? Sort of Spanish stuff?