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Southerly: One Hundred and Thirty-one Million Reasons to Copenhagenize Christchurch

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  • George Darroch,

    basic pothole and surface repair will continue to deteriorate unless voters wise up or ratepayers pick up the slack in your area.

    I've noticed that, actually. Big potholes appearing in roads in Auckland, and not being repaired. (Although it may be that I was looking for it, in the knowledge of cuts). Roads that fall apart are a pretty good visual indicator of the state of public spending in a country.

    The People's Republic of … • Since Nov 2006 • 2137 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to George Darroch,

    Roads that fall apart

    Not to undermine your point about public spending at all, but it you want roads that fall apart, come to Otautahi!

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3494 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    I for one want those vicious cycles
    off the roads, now!

    how about those well-oiled viscous ones?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 5169 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to David Haywood,

    But at the high extreme of traffic density (e.g. urban Japan) the same amount of ‘selfish’ driving by each person would manifest itself in (almost) constant incidents, and the traffic would quickly become snarled. The only way that traffic can flow in a reasonable manner is for all participants to have an unspoken agreement to act (apparently) ‘unselfishly’.

    Also the case in London. I found it strange when I first arrived here that drivers would not let cars out of side streets, even when in a traffic light queue. It may be the most annoying trait of NZ drivers that they seem to think they own any bit of the road that they can squeeze their car onto.
    Islander, most of what you say about Kiwi social behaviour is true, until they get behind a wheel, then it's F**K you Mate...

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4947 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    My own theory is that it’s not something that changes slowly, but can actually switch around on public mood, and certain ideas that make traffic better or worse can spread virally in feedback loops. It only takes a few people being rude to you, and you’re much more likely to be rude to someone else. Similarly, if a few people let you in here or there, you feel more inclined to give back. A small amount of constant pressure in the right direction can make a massive difference, turns a vicious cycle into a virtuous one.

    This is exactly my hypothesis on the subject! (You may or may not be pleased to hear this)

    Which is itself a good thing to promulgate- that every small courtesy on the road counts. Let's keep up- and increase- our own good behaviour :)

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 1599 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Let’s keep up- and increase- our own good behaviour :)

    +1

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4947 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    how about those viscous ones?

    If Dali had painted bikes, not watches ;-)

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3494 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    Also the case in London.

    Very much the case in Indonesia. The hive-mind is at play there, and it's completely unsurprising to see someone driving down the wrong side of a street. There are no lanes in practical terms. The expectation is that they'll make room for you, and you'll make room for them. It works, apart from the small percentage of the time when it goes disasterously wrong.

    If everyone drove there like they do here (assertively, giving nothing), the roads would be clogged with accidents.

    The People's Republic of … • Since Nov 2006 • 2137 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Lilith __,

    If Dali had painted bikes…

    like this? *

    I think this was called “Someone’s pinched me wheels!”

    here he is casually painting a chopper
    - Harley working up a sweat…

    perhaps some his anonymous street work??

    *from this Game Blog

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 5169 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    It may be the most annoying trait of NZ drivers that they seem to think they own any bit of the road that they can squeeze their car onto.
    Islander, most of what you say about Kiwi social behaviour is true, until they get behind a wheel, then it's F**K you Mate...

    This still rings true, 60 years on...

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4431 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Lilith __,

    putting the Catalan amongst the...

    not watches

    yet watches lead to bikes, spooky...

    ...and to an interesting site that posits the question (27.7.09 entry)
    ...what do Dalí & Hitler have in common?
    answer:

    Salvador Dalí was a real freaky bike freak.
    ...had an Italian Bianchi cycle in his studio and said he would have liked "the whole of France" to cycle: "The Tour de France on bicycles produces in me such a persistent satisfaction that my saliva flows in imperceptible but stubborn streams."

    Bike lanes had Hitler's blessings.
    ...Germany pioneered the creation of cycle paths in the 1930s - because the Nazi party wanted cyclists off the roads.
    By 1936 they had outlawed cycling groups.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 5169 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to George Darroch,

    Big potholes appearing in roads in Auckland, and not being repaired. (Although it may be that I was looking for it, in the knowledge of cuts). Roads that fall apart are a pretty good visual indicator of the state of public spending in a country.

    There has been a lot of work put in to Lake Road, Quay Street and the Newmarket viaduct, though, to name three big road I can think of off the top of my head. Although that may all be accounted for in last years budget.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    reinventing the wheel...

    Australian John Keogh, of Dandenong, Victoria, applied for a patent on the wheel in 2001; the Australian patent office, IP Australia, granted him Innovation Patent #2001100012. Keogh's 'circular transportation facilitation device' is described as having a "wide applicability in the transport of goods and persons from one point to another", particularly with further refinements, such as a rubber tire and inflatable tube. Keogh and IP Australia were jointly awarded the 2001 technology Ig Nobel for this novel contraption.

    from Cosmos mag

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 5169 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    Unlike standard patents, innovation patents in Australia don't get seriously examined until they are challenged, though. And that one did get revoked.....

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Reid, in reply to David Haywood,

    David Haywood wrote:

    At 84 cm it’s not *much* wider than my existing handlebars and would certainly fit on the skinny CHCH bike lanes – and it looks oh so useful for carting round the little ‘uns. Beautiful! Er, would I have to sell my kidneys to be able to afford one?

    It does fit on the skinny bike lanes, but we're a bit slow when fully loaded, so not so good when other cyclists want to pass. They also have a fairly wide turning circle. I can imagine them being used around town if CCC were keen (as they are south of here).

    As for your kidneys, the exchange rate has improved with the Kroner since we bought it, I'd imagine, so you'd probably only have to sell one. The great value is in being able to talk to and see the kids while going places, and avoiding needing to use the car at all to take the kids to school/care or to do the shopping. When we looked into trikes there were cheaper options but the quality was not so certain.

    South Africa • Since Nov 2006 • 79 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Jesus Christ...on a bicycle.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3494 posts Report Reply

  • James Green, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    If Dali had painted bikes…

    He also painted a Vespa that some students were taking on a trip to see the Pope (on display at the Piaggio Museum near Pisa, along with the gyrocopter vespa, the rocket launcher vespa, the fire engine vespa, the stretched (think limo) vespa, and all manner of Piaggio madness...

    (to be honest, the Dali vespa is not at all exciting compared to the other stuff)

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 691 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Lilith __,

    Jesus Christ...on a bicycle

    with, or without, a cross-bar?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 5169 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    with, or without, a cross-bar?

    :-)
    Unless, o'course, you're Waiting for Godwin...

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3494 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    with, or without, a cross-bar?

    ...and there should be no stigmata in being a cyclist.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3494 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    There has been a lot of work put in to Lake Road, Quay Street and the Newmarket viaduct, though, to name three big road I can think of off the top of my head. Although that may all be accounted for in last years budget.

    The Government is throwing billions at new mega-projects, but they've actually significantly cut road maintenence budgets.

    The People's Republic of … • Since Nov 2006 • 2137 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to JackElder,

    It’s the drivers who don’t see me that worry me

    Bicycles are invisible, when you get on a bike you are invisible. David is the physics geek who can provide you with the math to prove it.

    If you ride as if you are invisible you become much much safer. The moment you presume anyone in a car (or even on foot) can see you is the moment when you are most at danger.

    Of course this doesn't mean you can ride naked without consequences :).

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3472 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Ross Mason,

    I can’t help thinking that if you ride sitting up (a la Copenhagen video) then the chance of heading south onto your head may be reduced.

    No

    But some very basic training in Judo or similar, where you are taught how to control a fall so that less important bits get damaged first, definitely will help.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3472 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    The moment you presume anyone in a car (or even on foot) can see you is the moment when you are most at danger.

    Agreed. I've found making eye contact with motorists and using a horn* are two good methods for de-cloaking when necessary.


    *those old-fashioned ones with a rubber ball that you squeeze are GREAT, they make a good loud noise without being deafening.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3494 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    If you ride as if you are invisible you become much much safer

    Up to a point, totally. But please: hand signals, indicate indicate indicate. Sometimes we can see you, sometimes we are happy to share the road- but almost never can we read your minds :)

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 1599 posts Report Reply

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