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  • JacksonP, in reply to nzlemming,

    I’ll say goodbye, even though I’m blue…

    Hello, goodbye?

    This seems apposite.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2448 posts Report Reply

  • BruceR, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    But the post by Gerard is about 'national' media (primarily television), that happen to be based in Auckland. Not about regional newspapers or regional radio or regional television.

    Since Sep 2014 • 2 posts Report Reply

  • Jake Starrow, in reply to BruceR,

    But that’s the very point Bruce.....the Christchurch earthquakes, however big an issue, are still a local issue. So it's entirely fitting that the many earthquake programmes Gerard has made were aired on local television....aka CTV where the audiences are pitiful. What does that say?
    [By the way, Auckland doesn't have a television channel with a mandate to concentrate EXCLUSIVELY on local issues.]
    As has been referred to earlier on this site, Aucklanders for example, as a people outside of Christchurch and 100's of kms away aren't really interested in the debate over various aspects of the rebuild. Blame it on the human condition, blame it on who and what you like. But it's a fact.....a fact that won't change by unleashing the blame game.
    Gerard's docos on CTV went into very specific, Christchurch -centric detail as to what was being proposed, what made sense etc. It certainly is of no interest to Aucklanders. Why would and should it be?
    Christchurch people aren't remotely interested in the sports stadiums dilemma in Auckland or the roading crises....Why would and should they be?
    Aucklands not currently the problem. It's the endless bickering that's arisen over entities such as the Cathedral, The Convention Centre, Insurance battles etc etc.
    And only Christchurch people can solve those issues

    Since Sep 2014 • 77 posts Report Reply

  • Barnaby Bennett, in reply to Jake Starrow,

    Jack, that is a further point I write about. We can't solve our own issues because we don't have democratic representation down here. Christchurch is dominated by the national and National government at both local and regional levels, and this is tacitly supported by the rest of the country by 'it not being their issue'. I don't think that is fair on the rest of the country, it is someone else's city and the issues are complex. But until we get some control back down here, you ARE involved, like it or not.

    Christchurch • Since Jul 2012 • 17 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to BruceR,

    But the post by Gerard is about ‘national’ media (primarily television), that happen to be based in Auckland. Not about regional newspapers or regional radio or regional television.

    True -- but that's a complaint that's been around a long time before the Christchurch quakes. Plenty of people in South and West Auckland could say with some exasperation, and more than a grain of truth, that they barely register on the "national" media radar unless there's photogenic property damage or a corpse involved. I certainly don't mean to be glib or dismissive of the thoughtful and heart-felt contributions made by Gerard or anyone else from Christchurch here, but they're not the only people ill served by the "if it bleeds it leads" mentality of too much media, let alone the thought processes that turned the Duchess of Cambridge's morning sickness into the most important news story in the world. Congrats to Willkat and all, but really?

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12363 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Before anyone gets too involved with “Jake”, I’ll just point out that’s a third shiny new account with the same viewpoint that coincidentally can’t work ellipses or paragraph breaks. I’m just sayin’. What I’m just sayin’ is that’s the same person.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4625 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to sam bryant,

    Hey all you sheep-shagging zealots....listen up! Jeremy is a friend of mine...

    Even imaginary friends are better than no friends. Doh!

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1336 posts Report Reply

  • BruceR, in reply to Jake Starrow,

    One of the things that has been done very successfully by Key, Brownlee, Parata, and a host of other central government representatives, AND, the insurance companies, is to represent the situation in Christchurch and Canterbury as a "local" issue. The failures in Christchurch are very much a failure of central government, and as a result of representing it as only a "local" issue, we don't get to discuss why EQC is underfunded, why insurance companies have been acting in an unregulated manner, and a host of other things. Under the guise of the "local" earthquake, education "reforms" have been foisted on some areas of Christchurch. We don't talk nationally about whether it is acceptable that regional government in Canterbury has controlled by central government for some time now (primarily for the benefit of the dairy industry). We don't talk about whether it is acceptable that a minister (Brownlee) has been given unprecedented powers to override legislation and local and regional government in Canterbury.

    The discussion here is about what the micro or local failures in Christchurch and Canterbury represent about our central / national government, and it is dangerous for all those interested in government and democracy to not have those issues represented and discussed nationally, in our national media.

    To buy in to the idea that the failures in Christchurch by central government is a "local" issue and that it's all about the anglican cathedral is foolish and blind to the much larger issues that the past four years have exposed about our central government.

    Since Sep 2014 • 2 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell, in reply to Jake Starrow,

    Aucklands not currently the problem.

    No. And since no one much except you lot have espoused that view, can we stop talking about it please?

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2068 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    CTV Ilam meeting is available on CTV on demand

    Earthquake Recovery Minister Gerry Brownlee backtracked quickly last night after describing 250 earthquake claimants as "grumpy".
    Brownlee last night joined a CTV candidate debate for Ilam, in which he was challenged on his responsiveness to meetings like last week's Campbell Live earthquake forum in Shirley Boys' High, which he declined to appear on.

    and other stories....

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7630 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Emma Hart,

    What I’m just sayin’ is that’s the same person.

    More telling to me is the identical use of ...... dot dot dot everywhere.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10522 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to BenWilson,

    More telling to me is the identical use of …… dot dot dot everywhere.

    Which is kinda what "can’t work ellipses" means...

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2830 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to nzlemming,

    I did wonder.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10522 posts Report Reply

  • Barnaby Bennett, in reply to BruceR,

    Thanks Bruce, thats a really well made point.

    Christchurch • Since Jul 2012 • 17 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    . . . com
    total ellipse of the heart....

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7630 posts Report Reply

  • Jake Starrow,

    The Minister in charge of the rebuild etc is a local, Gerry Brownlee. Christchurch has a handful of MPs who can present local issues, individual scenarios to their peers incl committees, commissions as well as relevant ministers in Parliament.
    Christchurch has an ex-Labour associate Minister as Mayor who knows the workings of Parliament extremely well. Christchurch has a leading NZ newspaper that has and does cover earthquake-related matters comprehensively as well as providing a forum for readers to give their views. Campbell Live, a significant, national current affairs show makes it a priority to cover all sorts of earthquake stories/issues on a regular basis and certainly not just the most tear-jerking.
    Christchurch has its very own local television station that featured a long series on the rebuild directed by Gerard Smyth. I hear another is in pre-production now.
    So Barnaby, I respect your obvious passion for the subject and your earnest explanations, somewhat obscure but heartfelt, that Christchurch is still being deprived of attention and opportunities to have its case better heard, more fairly considered. But I genuinely contend that all the outlets above negate that viewpoint to a large extent.

    Since Sep 2014 • 77 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe,

    It’s a compliment to Public Address' role a a key influencer to see that a professional writer is so concerned about the earthquake recovery’s effect on National’s party vote that they are prepared to spend a considerable amount of time crafting their lines in three different names at a crucial time of the election campaign.

    Being paid by the hour? Or is the retainer covering it?

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2890 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Hebe,

    If "Jake" was correct, wouldn't our newspapers and TV screens would be full of Christchurch stories, embarrassing the government into actually fixing the problems? If that was the case, I doubt there would be so many people being royally screwed over by insurance companies and EQC. What colour is the sky in your world "Jake?

    There's a lot to be said for banning the odd IP address.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1336 posts Report Reply

  • Greg Dawson,

    I was wondering what whether there was anything useful in the IP addresses. Being spoofed? Have we found Jason Ede?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 294 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Alfie,

    It’s plain to anyone watching the whole quake scenario play out that the government has done a deal with reinsurers: EQC and insurers’ costs would be minimised as much as possible and most large pay-outs would be made in 2013-14 and after (see Munich Re’s annual report for 2010-11 for an outline of their payment strategy – to be done after their investments matured).

    These, among other conditions, have been the price for continued reinsurance of EQC and earthquake insurance coverage for the whole of New Zealand.

    In other words: my fucked foundations are paying for the future earthquake insurance of Wellington (which is likely to be the highest dollar-value casualty of a major earthquake).

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2890 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Greg Dawson,

    Have we found Jason Ede?

    Nah, He's living it up with Carmen Sandiego.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2830 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Hey look, the ellipses are gone! It's almost like somebody pointed it out.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4625 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen R, in reply to Emma Hart,

    Hey look, the ellipses are gone! It's almost like somebody pointed it out.

    Obviously magic powers. It took my wife 5 years of constantly criticising my apostrophes and Over Capitalisation before I finally got it sorted. (mostly).

    Have you considered a career in teaching literacy?

    Wellington • Since Jul 2009 • 255 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart, in reply to Stephen R,

    Have you considered a career in teaching literacy?

    Ha, part of one of my jobs involves trying to teach "writers" how to use apostrophes, and the surprisingly difficult How to Punctuate Direct Speech WTF Do They Teach in American Schools unit. I wish it were this easy.

    Two 'enter's at the end of a paragraph, Jersamake. Two.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4625 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    True – but that’s a complaint that’s been around a long time before the Christchurch quakes. Plenty of people in South and West Auckland could say with some exasperation, and more than a grain of truth, that they barely register on the “national” media radar unless there’s photogenic property damage or a corpse involved.

    This. In Wellington, it's largely about the benign neglect of Avalon Studios.

    When people complain about Television New Zealand being Television Auckland, I’d say they really mean Television Epsom.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5369 posts Report Reply

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