Up Front: Safety Net
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Sacha, in reply to
the people who say this are perfectly clever. They're just over-thinking it
and over-estimating how 'clever' the rest of us actually are :)
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Emma Hart, in reply to
and over-estimating how 'clever' the rest of us actually are :)
Pah, they should come drinking with us. Then we're all Brilliant!
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Sacha, in reply to
the great leveller - upwards
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Roger, in reply to
Shouldn't doctors just do doctoring and shut the fuck up with judgey bullshit?
A colleague a few (not too many) years back went to a GP in a NZ provincial town for a medical. In the course of this he admitted recreational drug use. The GP 'failed' him the medical and then rang both his employer and the local Police Senior Sergeant, both of whom went to the GPs church.
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Rob Stowell, in reply to
The GP ‘failed’ him the medical and then rang both his employer and the local Police Senior Sergeant
Is this legal? Or against the oath, or something? 'Cos it's a terrible story.
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BenWilson, in reply to
Yeah, I'd be wanting utu after that. Which wouldn't be hard - you'd only have to let people know what had happened and the GP could lose half his business.
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Tom Beard, in reply to
Is this legal? Or against the oath, or something?
IANAL and IANAME (I am not a medical ethicist - doubt that'll catch on), but I'd say that if not against the law, it's certainly a massively strikeoffable offence.
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No it is certainly not legal, but unfortunately the guy (who came from the town) did not want to rock the boat
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Morgan Nichol, in reply to
I'm not any kind of lawyer, but I say yes. Privacy Act and Health Information Privacy Code, at the least. So Privacy Commissioner and Health & Disability Commissioner would both likely take a very dim view of such outrageous carrying on.
I guess being forced into having a GP that goes to church is one of the things that living in a small town forces upon you. But I'm much more happy having a GP who is into science, not faith.
I don't want my doctor to asses my morals, I want my doctor to tell me what the fuck this lump is, or why it hurts so much when I do this.
Let's say for instance that I've masturbated my long suffering penis into a red raw and very sore state, I don't expect to be told I'm a bad person for thinking all those dirty thoughts and abusing my body, and I certainly don't expect people I know to be told that I'm a bad person, what I expect is a prescription for some soothing medicated lubricating lotion.
You know just hypothetically.
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Morgan Nichol, in reply to
It's tough, because whatever hand slapping might happen would be well after the damage was done.
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Women have always done this negotiating with GPs. Just talk to anyone who has ever sought information about a termination (or even contraception) from a GP who disapproves.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
People tell me they're anxious about looking stupid, or at least insufficiently clever.
Which I don't understand, because everyone except the most wretched excrement-craniums is more than sufficiently clever about a whole bunch of somethings I'm blissfully ignorant about. Yes, PAS can get a wee bit angst-ridden on occasion, but more often it's a neverending zombie buffet of tasty brains.
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Morgan Nichol, in reply to
As a simple fat white boy it’s really easy to be unaware of these issues.
For instance the problem Emma related with doctors assuming any bruises on a woman are evidence of abuse, it’s incredibly obvious in hindsight, but didn’t occur to me until she said it.
But then hearing about things like Texas’ (new or perhaps just proposed?) mandatory transvaginal ultrasound for every woman who wants a termination. It seems like rape to me. Very clinical, very expensive, very well lit, but still forcing something into a woman’s vagina. It’s so obviously designed to feel like that to women as well “oh you want to do this thing we don’t want you to do? then we’re going to do the most discouraging thing we can possibly imagine”.
It’s just so completely bizarre and obvious.
I’ve never had to negotiate shit, it only seems fair that everyone should get the same privilege.
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Bart Janssen, in reply to
My GP may come to the conclusion that I’m being physically abused
And that is the problem of course. How can a GP be certain that Emma is not being abused and so cowed by her abuser that she makes up a story about being a sub.
Realistically given the number of women being abused in this country that isn't an absurd conclusion to come to. ANd having come to that conclusion the GP MUST do something to protect the victim.
To find a GP able to accept and understand Emma and to be confident enough in Emma to actually believe that all the bruises are desired ... I can understand how difficult that would be.
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Tom Beard, in reply to
How can a GP be certain that Emma is not being abused and so cowed by her abuser that she makes up a story about being a sub.
And there are those who believe that subs don't exist, and that no-one could consent to being hurt. Bruises from other recreational activities (i.e. sport) are seen as somewhere between a necessary evil and a badge of honour, but as soon as you mix up sex and recreation ... ew.
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Emma Hart, in reply to
For instance the problem Emma related with doctors assuming any bruises on a woman are evidence of abuse, it’s incredibly obvious in hindsight, but didn’t occur to me until she said it.
Bless you Morgan, you've pretty much summed up why I do what I do.
And there are those who believe that subs don't exist, and that no-one could consent to being hurt.
Yeah, because for a start, what Bart says is true. But my particular GP has known me, and my family, for a long time and we have a pretty good relationship. So perhaps I could point out to her that the patterning of bruising has clearly been inflicted by a particular object, for instance, and none of it by a fist... but she'd still have to believe that I was capable of agreeing to that, without any degree of coercion. That I was in absolutely no danger with my Dom.
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BenWilson, in reply to
Let's say for instance that I've masturbated my long suffering penis into a red raw and very sore state
It's traditional to come up with a humorous cover story. Vacuuming naked, kitten loose in the house somewhere, had to fix TV after getting out of shower, went for a bike ride in very uncomfortable clothes, took a poo in some nettles, etc.
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nzlemming, in reply to
Bless you Morgan, you've pretty much summed up why I do what I do.
Correct if I'm wrong, but I believe that might be the first time in forever that anyone has said "Bless you Morgan" when it wasn't about a sneeze ;-)
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nzlemming, in reply to
I do treasure your experience in these matter, Ben.
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Cis, mpreg, wincest, spec-fic and now sub.
These are all words I have had to look up after reading one of your posts, Emma. Well, I didn’t need to look up sub, because I know what a sub-editor does but it hardly ever involves physical injury. So in this context it made little sense. I then realised that it was a different kind of sub.
Not that I’m complaining, mind. I just seem to live a life where these concepts don’t form part of my day to day life.
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Sacha, in reply to
a different kind of sub
a yellow one
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Morgan Nichol, in reply to
To be fair, usually when people bless me it is more along lines of "the power of christ compels you".
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Islander, in reply to
How can a GP be certain that Emma is not being abused and so cowed by her abuser that she makes up a story about being a sub.
There is a GP in my family - extremely worldly,experienced(nearly 25 years hard yakka here & overseas) & highly esteemed by clients. If you present with wounds/other damage, the first question would be - what happened/how acquired? IF you said it was consensual , that GP would then ascertain how you presented, and -with consent - do a physical check. Not only looking at the physical damage but also listening/feeling/ascertaining for the why. NEVER judgmental.
But not all GPs are either experienced enough/free of biases/*secure in their own sexuality* enough to be able to do this-
Addendum - you want to be an asexual person with a urinary tract problem...
ALL the diagnostic questions relate to your sexual life, and, when you politely
explain that you dont have one, you are met with guffaws and total disbelief.
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Megan Wegan, in reply to
The exception? Sometimes, feminist blog discussions. That’s the only time where I can be interested in the discussion, feel I have something to contribute – and not do so.
This makes me really sad. Because you _do_ have something to contribute. It's one of my immense frustrations with any number of feminists websites that shut out men completely. What the hell is the point of just talking to women? Do these feminists think we can actually achieve true equality without the involvement of men? Yes, it has to be managed, and the recent Hugo Schwyzer debacle demonstrates why. But we need allies.
Having said that, the kind of sites where men can't speak are usually the same sites where I don't speak either.
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I know people who would much rather be punched in
the face than have an idea exposed as incorrect.Sounds like the entire National Government
- Asset Sales
- National Standards
- Off Shore Drilling
- Fracking
- Chch Earthquake handling
.......but as soon as you mix up sex and recreation … ew.
Indeed, all you get are excretions...
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