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Hard News: Finally, the Teapot Tape?

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  • merc,

    My early in word, expression for the year must be,
    Hey that's a recording device!
    I've started to notice where this can be usefully applied to my life,
    Hey that's a coffee constructing device!
    Hey that's a food eating device!
    Hey that a vehicular transporting device!
    Hey that's a democracy making device!

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to Sacha,

    “how much did you overhear”

    Officer, I was instructed by my lawyer to say that I had switched my hearing aid off.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2751 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    "... because it's still an illegal recording". - Jim Mora, today.

    Is there any topic about which that guy is not completely clueless?

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to 3410,

    Is there any topic about which that guy is not completely clueless?

    No. Really, really no.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2140 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Having listened the recording the most damning part is, in my opinion, the part @07.23 where Key says "is that yours" three times in quick succession, ie. faster than any normal human could respond, even if you include John Banks in that description. Then, without time to check he says "That's a recording device".
    When we first saw pictures the "device" was in a black bag on the table. When you grab a bag containing a recording device it can be clearly heard on the recording, not so in this case. This means JK knew there was a recording device in the bag before he even touched it but he had already disowned the bag by asking JB if it was his, three times.
    This can only mean one thing as far as I can see. Key knew of the device before it was discovered and that points to collusion between Key's team and the journalist.
    Why? well it sure took the media's attention off anything Labour had to say in the last week leading up to the election and that, I think, was the whole point.
    One interesting bit is that even though he knew it was there he still made a gaffe that played straight into Winston's hands'.
    What is on the tape was never the game changer, the tape was.

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4869 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Hi guys. I’m back in the house and I’ve restored the link to the original post. I hadn’t had time to take advice and Ijust didn’t want to be fretting about it while I was out doing stuff and away from the computer.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18957 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to nzlemming,

    He knows a lot about dog agility courses.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3661 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed,

    There’s only one thing left now for those who still think the tapes are illegal, and that’s Mubaraking the Internet. Go ahead, make our day.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4351 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to merc,

    Hey, that's a d-vice device.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8584 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    When we first saw pictures the “device” was in a black bag on the table. When you grab a bag containing a recording device it can be clearly heard on the recording, not so in this case. This means JK knew there was a recording device in the bag before he even touched it but he had already disowned the bag by asking JB if it was his, three times.
    This can only mean one thing as far as I can see. Key knew of the device before it was discovered and that points to collusion between Key’s team and the journalist.
    Why

    Got it in one Steve B- it raised my suspicions that Key, at least, was well aware of a 'recording device' when I saw the photo of where the black bag was-
    the whole thing was a game play that - fortunately - didnt work out at all well for the National spin machine.
    "Wasting police time" anyone?

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • alobar, in reply to Islander,

    I don't want to credit Key with being that fast on his feet , but whether or not he had noticed the device before the end of the conversation he still wasted police time

    auckland • Since Apr 2010 • 63 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to merc,

    Hey that's a democracy making device!

    a hammer :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16741 posts Report Reply

  • mic weevil,

    I'm looking forward to someone with more time and wherewithal than I to re-sync the recording to the footage in light of what someone was saying about non-verbal communication upthread...

    auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 51 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to mic weevil,

    I’m looking forward to someone with more time and wherewithal than I to re-sync the recording to the footage in light of what someone was saying about non-verbal communication upthread…

    I'm told just such a derivative work exists -- subtitles and all -- but has never been broadcast.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18957 posts Report Reply

  • Jarno van der Linden, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    When we first saw pictures the "device" was in a black bag on the table. When you grab a bag containing a recording device it can be clearly heard on the recording, not so in this case.

    At about 7:50 it sounds like the recorder is being put in a bug. Possibly the pictures were from after that time?

    Nelson • Since Oct 2007 • 69 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Clarke,

    Truly a storm in a teapot.

    -36.76, 174.61 or thereab… • Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report Reply

  • Jos,

    It's all this lot are capable of.

    Whakatane • Since Jan 2012 • 862 posts Report Reply

  • Danyl Mclauchlan,

    This can only mean one thing as far as I can see. Key knew of the device before it was discovered and that points to collusion between Key’s team and the journalist.
    Why? well it sure took the media’s attention off anything Labour had to say in the last week leading up to the election and that, I think, was the whole point.

    Right. So ‘the plan’ and their arrangement with Ambrose would go something like:

    We’d like you to secretly record our conversation, in which we make several mildly embarrassing statements. Then take it to the media outlets you work for, but arrange it so they just report on the tape but don’t release it.

    Then we’ll attack you and conduct a campaign of character assassination against you, accusing you of gutter journalism to make it all look believable. Then we’ll lay a complaint with the police -and rely on your discretion not to reveal this arrangement - and in response you file proceedings against us in the High Court. Then we’ll seek $14,000 court costs against you, again, just to make it all look really realistic. Deal?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 901 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Danyl Mclauchlan,

    Deal?

    I wouldn't have gone for it myself.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18957 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Depends on what else (if anything, and I'm not suggesting there *was* a what else)
    they were prepared to offer - or, and I'm not suggesting there was, just putting out hypothetical scenarios- they had something on him...

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16741 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to Sacha,

    Or not.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • linger,

    There’s a cigar burned every minute.
    Or to put it another way: in this case, cock-up seems far more likely than conspiracy theory.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 915 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to linger,

    Or to put it another way: in this case, cock-up seems far more likely than conspiracy theory.

    I wholeheartedly concur.

    Apart from anything else, the major beneficiary of the whole affair is Winston Peters, whose vote doubled in its wake.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18957 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to linger,

    Which leads us to
    *cockup by whom?*

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

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