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Hard News: Fear, authority and ... Judy Bailey?

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  • Ian Dalziel,

    You should be in a shed Giovanni . Real blokes don't go near a garage...

    what, no magic carport ride...?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 5070 posts Report Reply

  • Christopher Dempsey,

    The Bay City Rollers video was great... particularly the woman furiously knitting - let it be said that neither parliament nor the Bay City Rollers will get in the way of a person's knitting.

    Parnell / Tamaki-Auckland… • Since Sep 2008 • 642 posts Report Reply

  • andin,

    Clearly someone for whom a conversion to christianity was the lifeline they needed to pull themselves out of a death spiral

    An interesting point you raise sir. But it gloss's over so much that is wrong with the way our unintelligently designed society was cobbled together over the centuries, and is in desperate need of an overhaul, and not by the religious, the privileged or the moneyed, and on a global scale. But it won't happen.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1231 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Yes, CR. but the Christian Right has been like this about every form of media technology conceivable- from film censorship (1930s -1970s) to video/CD/DVD censorship (1980s- Present) to Internet censorship (1990s- ). Sigman is part of a long trend.

    Now now, Mister Young -- I think we both know there's a healthy strain of technophobic in the Left (faith-based and secular). Don't think there's necessarily anything sinister in being properly sceptical about the perils of new technology, but as Russell said there's legitimate concerns and there's sheer craziness.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12040 posts Report Reply

  • Julie Fairey,

    Is this the stress of wondering where their next dose of "parental correction" is coming from?

    Yes I would quite like to see a panel discussion between Bailey and Sigman about the role of shaking in best practice parenting.

    Orcland • Since Dec 2007 • 217 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Young,

    Well, yes, CR, I do take your point insofar as the Communist Party's anti-comics crusade and eighties antiporn feminism went, and in hindsight, the GM moratorium was based on insufficient extrapolated data about risk or harm. However, as you note, there are some technologies that aren't so benign. Social conservatives of whatever allegiance do tend to get into a moral panic when it comes to media technologies, though.

    Incidentally, if Facebook is the spawn of Satan, why is there a Facebook link on the FamFirst website?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 370 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    Ah, Ari Sigman! I always thought there was something very dodgy about him. Not a researcher nor an advocate, but a zealot you picks 'evidence' (of often highly dubious origins) to reinforce his prejudices. Still, he manages to fool many people--I remember Peter Calder getting quite starry-eyed about him.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2320 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    There are other media alarmists about--such as John Terris and his Band of Five Followers in the Hutt Valley. They used to send me their newsletter addressed to "The Rev Geoff Lealand". This caused great mirth amongst my colleagues. Delivery stopped when I sent a newsletter back, with a message 'Unsolicited mail from Satan"!

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2320 posts Report Reply

  • Kim_Wright,

    I just have to get this off my chest - I had a major crush on Les McKeown as a 9 year old.... actually got a bit of a lump in my throat just now watching the vid when they panned close up to him giving Ann Margaret the glad eye... spooky

    Wellington • Since May 2009 • 43 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Well, yes, CR, I do take your point insofar as the Communist Party's anti-comics crusade

    Wait. What?

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7386 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Incidentally, if Facebook is the spawn of Satan, why is there a Facebook link on the FamFirst website?

    You're looking for any kind of moral or intellectual consistency in Family First? Good luck to you, but I suspect you're going to trip over the Fountain of Youth in the middle of El Dorado first.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12040 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Well, yes, CR, I do take your point insofar as the Communist Party's anti-comics crusade

    That's a first post on a new page where you have to go back to page 1 to see if you've somehow changed threads or missed a page or something.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6207 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed,

    Delivery stopped when I sent a newsletter back, with a message 'Unsolicited mail from Satan"!

    Grab some loudspeakers and play back this outside the conference venue... ;D

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4365 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Well, yes, CR, I do take your point insofar as the Communist Party's anti-comics crusade

    That's a first post on a new page where you have to go back to page 1 to see if you've somehow changed threads or missed a page or something.

    If the refence was to the thing about literacy and the masses, I'm sure Craig was meant to excoriate Pope Pius IX, the sworn enemy of universal public education.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7386 posts Report Reply

  • Ngaire BookieMonster,

    As long as my life depends on it I. Will. Keep. Clapping.

    At the foot of Mt Te Aroh… • Since Nov 2009 • 173 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    If the refence was to the thing about literacy and the masses, I'm sure Craig was meant to excoriate Pope Pius IX, the sworn enemy of universal public education.

    More like having horrible flashbacks to the suicidal ennui caused by reading Adorno and other sages of The Frankfurt School. Like having your will to live sucked out by psychic lipo.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12040 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    the Communist Party's anti-comics crusade

    In respect of the British campaign, this is well documented in Martin Barker (1984), A Haunt of Fears: The Strange History of the British Comics Campaign (Pluto Press)

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2320 posts Report Reply

  • Phil Lyth,

    remember that 668 is the neighbour of the beast

    apropos nothing at all

    Wellington • Since Apr 2009 • 443 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    I just have to get this off my chest - I had a major crush on Les McKeown as a 9 year old....

    Nick Lowe knows how you feel:

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason,

    666

    Hehe. I like the story that the inventor of the UPC barcode had a morbid sense of humour and "unintentionally" inserted what appears to be 666 into the barcode. At the beginning, middle and end appear to be 2 narrow stripes. Alludes to be the code for 666.

    Thus it is on every item of grocery you spend your Satanised monies on. Woo Woo.

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1500 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Young,

    Wait, FamFirst is getting worse. Now they're all aflutter about the bits adangle on TV3 Nightline's coverage (...) of the Nude Blacks...
    And CR, yes, I do agree with you about Adorno and the Frankfurt School. Now, could you please tell Gerald Warner, Babs Faithful and the rest of the raving right that the Frankfurt School and post-sixties New Left are two different things...???

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 370 posts Report Reply

  • Peter grower,

    Judy Baily.

    Mother of the Nation.

    Mother's message, greed is good.

    Since Dec 2006 • 30 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    Is there any discussion of this;
    Pro-smacking campaigner joins Auckland mayoralty race?

    Anyway, as Garth McVicar was quoted, and there's more cold salmon* coming from the FoFCon, seemed apposite.

    * That is seriously disturbing. And then what? They make them eat it? It seems a high cost for disciplining your children to waste good salmon.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • James W,

    Wait, FamFirst is getting worse. Now they're all aflutter about the bits adangle on TV3 Nightline's coverage (...) of the Nude Blacks...

    What rubbish. I recorded that segment, re-watched it many times in slow motion and freeze-framed the best angles and you couldn't make out a thing.

    Since Jul 2008 • 125 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    What rubbish. I recorded that segment, re-watched it many times in slow motion and freeze-framed the best angles and you couldn't make out a thing.

    You couldn't see the dangling bits because you don't have the obsessive attention to prurient detail of a Family Firster - it's like having Super Vision for cock and such like.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7386 posts Report Reply

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