Hard News: Of course it's about the book
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Regarding supplies of the book...
From what I hear all 3000 copies of the book are already pre-sold. So unless you have had a purchase order accepted by a retailer who is expecting some incoming books then you are not getting a copy on monday.
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Bugger.. too many hints... I will have to make this harder. Richard gets the chocie fish for the collins quote.
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Is it Lockwood?
I am thinking of someone outside the strategy team, but with a bit of seniority. Plus I can imagine people prob don't talk to him much.
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My closing thought for today is that all this really couldn't be happening to a nicer party.
Now home for a beer,TV3 news, and then whatever the night brings!
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"Can we stop Don from giving speeches? Today's speech is about as exciting as watching paint dry. The speech delivery is too long, monotonous, slow paced, and he is having far too many stumbles."
I smell Gerry Brownlee on this one...
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Well, I fired off an email to the publishers and to Whitcoulls asking why the book was embargoed.
Whitcoulls phoned back, and in a slightly agressive conversation (perhaps justifiably), they assured me that Whitcoulls had the books, wanted to sell them, and they were being prevented from doing so the publisher could distribute to independent booksellers for monday. They were sick of getting beat up just because they were the big guys, and wanted to set things straight.
The Managing Director and Publisher at Craig Potton replied to my email. According to him, Whitcoulls have demanded nothing, the books are (all?) in Nelson still, and there's nothing that can be done.
I am, of course, prepared to accept their assurances unreservedly, and apologise if I've hurt their feelings, etc.
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Not lockwood... and not Gerry....
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Ok one more.. two outstanding quotes.... Don's speech and the person who doesn't want to take credit for Orewa Welfare speech....
And this one....
"The reason I didn't go to the Nats party last night is that I couldn't have coped with socialising with such horrible, unprincipled homophobes. Your caucus is despicable, and your own recent conduct - a disgrace to your late farther - is little better. You have succumbed to McCullyism adn there is nothing more dispicable in politics than that.... You'll all go down, which is what you all deserve. In sorrow and anger..."
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wow, you've stumped me there. The mind boggles...
Since we're allowed to ask you questions: any update on the 'prominent media personality' who allegedly provided media training to Brash??
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Katherine Rich not wanting credit for the welfare speech?
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Not lockwood... and not Gerry....
Bugger -- that quote sounded so very Gerry.
Could it be Katherine Rich?
Put us out of our misery, I beg you...
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Te Heu Heu?
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James Dolman wrote:
Thats exactly the point here Craig, we have accusations winging around I would think even National party supporters will want to get to the bottom of it.To be honest, I really think some of the stuff I've been reading so far is about as worth 'getting to the bottom' of as the rabid right wing-nuts on Kiwiblog I've taken a lot of s**t from for suggesting not everything Helen Clark does is part of some eeevil conspiracy. Personally, I'd love to see how close Helen Clark's public statements conform to her e-mails, Cabinet and caucus minutes and off the record chats with people who were in the room at the time. And I'd certainly love to get the truth about who really knew what, and when, about that damn pledge card.
I expect there will be a considerable gap, which proves nothing more than a level of medacity most of us would be guilty of... if we were half way honest with ourselves.
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Oh, and I also get a lot of c**p for suggesting that Investigate and its editor aren't exactly the most reliable or disinterested sources of information about Miss Clark and the Labour Party. Pretty uncontentious notion to me... but there you go.
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Hi Craig,
Speaking of investigate.. has anyone else seen his latest scoop. Tis a wild wild one......
And while there is some truth to the politics=mendacity meme there are levels of mendacity and there is also getting caught with your pants around your ankles.
Ok... since its friday night....
---- Not wanting Brash to speak = Bryan Sinclair
---- Not wanting credit for welfare speech = Michael Basset& I will leave the homophobic party one for now.
The media personality was Paul Holmes.
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The fact Bill English detests McCully makes me all the more enthusiastic about the idea of him as National Party leader. I may not like National much, but they'll get into power sooner or later, and I'd rather it be alon English's axis that a "drown government in a bathtub" whackjob like McCully.
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The media personality was Paul Holmes.
The real reason for the gaffes!
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And while there is some truth to the politics=mendacity meme there are levels of mendacity and there is also getting caught with your pants around your ankles.
Ah, yes, and isn't it funny how the "level" lowers dramatically when it's the people you happen to vote for? Sorry, Alistair, I may change my mind if I bother reading the thing, but I have to agree with RNZ political editor Brent Edwards that there's an element of 'pot calling the kettle black' hypocrisy on display here, and it remains to be seen whether this is (to coin a phrase) going to be one of those 'Beltway issues' we hear so much about. In a perverse way, the Blair-lite political culture of spinning your way to lowered expectations Clark's made a fine art of could come into play here. I don't think that's a good thing, but it's really hard to feel much sympathy for Labour if this doesn't turn out to be the king hit they're expecting.
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the homophobic party one
Simon Upton? David Round?
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Wow... really interesting to compare the two approaches of Campbell Live and CloseUp to the story.
Campbell Live with really strong with the Brash lied angle - no intereviews; just a comparrison of Brash's statements past stastements about his relationship and knowledge of the exclusive brethren, and the contents of the emails. CloseUp was an interview of Gerry Brownlee and Richard Prebble - no surprises as to what they said: the work being a fiction, everything Hager has ever said before being wrong (no challenge from Wood on any of these statements), and absolutely no mention or description of any of the actual contents of the book. Really weird, I thought.
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Homophobic thingo...lockwood?
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Ben Wilson:
Really cute - how shall we speculate on the name of the closeted gay Labour MP I has the misfortune to hear make a respulsively homophobic - and grossly defamatory, so I won't quore it thank you very much - slur about out now-National MP Chris Finlayson? I miss Norm Jones and John Banks who at least paid gays and lesbians the (dubious) respect of shitting on everyone without fear, favour or dissembling. Then again, once you've been called "morally euqivalent to a Jewish Nazi' or a "house nigger" enough times because of your politics, you really just have to shrug at the hypocrisy and move on.
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Close up had Gerry and Richard? Gosh, how balanced...
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Yes, CloseUp thing was really very odd. Wood herself was very dismissive of the entire situation - which doesn't worry me so much as the fact that at the end of the piece I just sort of felt like I hadn't learned anything about the actual contents of the book, only three opinions about it (which were, incidently, very much all in agreement).
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Cambell Live shows that "Honest" Don is the most Blatant Liar of recent history. Now that (more correctly) "Devious" Don has been exposed; a vote of thanks should be made to the courageous few, who had the gumption to forward the correspondence on to someone who could be relied on to deal with it, in an appropriate manner!
I trust that Keys will also heed the message - but I doubt it! The fact is the front bench of National is the epitome of "Hollow Men". Full of self-importance and hubris, and completely lacking in anything approximating moral conscience. I can see the Tui's ad now!" No I do not know anything about that email I did not open it! - Yeah right!
Well John if you didn't know anything about it, and you didn't open it - you should have! Because every one else around you sure did! Even the so-called minions! Some were so disturbed about it they chose to make it public! So don't do a Don and deny it all - you were in there boots and all!
What makes the whole thing even more scurrilous though, is the persistent sanctimonious refrain from the National benches about a corrupt government! Surely Don never listened to the sermons of his Dad - I'm sure there would have been more than one or two on judgement of others - Judge not lest you yourself be judged! Before you remove the speck of dust from your neighbor's eye - remove the plank from your own! All good stuff and well worth remembering!
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