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Hard News: Dirty Politics

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  • Alfie, in reply to stephen clover,

    It is because he is clinically depressed
    I really question that diagnosis.

    Perhaps "odious slug" would be more accurate?

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1386 posts Report Reply

  • stephen clover, in reply to Alfie,

    I can't locate that in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to stephen clover,

    I can't locate that in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

    Narcissism isn't so much a mental illness as it is an acute character flaw. Like say, greed or arrogance.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5418 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to stephen clover,

    I really question that diagnosis.

    It shouldn’t really be relevant in any case. Cameron Slater might have issues, or he might just be a jerk. Those people exist in all colours and plenty of them post crap on the internet.

    The critical stuff that’s come out of this book is that the alleged behaviour of government ministers, parliamentary staff and others in power, in their choices to secretly collude with and support this guy, giving him access to the top levels of government, is both unprofessional and disgusting. Especially considering what’s been known for a long time about who he is, what he’s likely to do, and what sorts of consequences might result.

    If “everyone does it”, as the apologists are saying, then it sounds like a perfectly good motivation to fix the system so they can’t, instead of just using the excuse to justify the behaviour as if it should be acceptable from anyone. With that in mind, I’d like to hear some positive things about what policies all parties have towards doing this.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1139 posts Report Reply

  • Kracklite,

    Can we leave the psychiatry to professionals please? As someone who does have an at times debilitating mental illness, I find the jokes rather less than funny.

    The Library of Babel • Since Nov 2007 • 982 posts Report Reply

  • Mike Graham, in reply to izogi,

    +1 - Well said izogi

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 206 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Sorry if I offended you Kracklite. My "odious slug" comment was not intended to be a psychiatric term - just my opinion of Slater.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1386 posts Report Reply

  • Kracklite, in reply to Alfie,

    Fine.

    The Library of Babel • Since Nov 2007 • 982 posts Report Reply

  • Trevor Nicholls,

    shorter nats: yeah, we really are like that, but we don't care, and neither should you

    Wellington, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 310 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Thanks, Kracklite. +1 whole infinity.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    I wonder what will happen to ipredict now that it has been shown up as just another tool for manipulation of the message?

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3202 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to izogi,

    fix the system

    Where do we start? There is so much wrong with our way of living on this planet much of it coming from our past and we just carry on as if the problem is to big to deal with.
    It's not.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1881 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to andin,

    Where do we start?

    Good question. I've had some loose thoughts but answering it right now is beyond me.

    Really I’d just be keen to see a serious discussion about it, and with political parties engaged and interested in actually committing to making useful changes.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1139 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Sjorn,

    People behaving like reasonable, responsible, humane adults you mean.

    New Zealand • Since Sep 2013 • 39 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    I wonder what will happen to ipredict now that it has been shown up as just another tool for manipulation of the message?

    Wasn't that obvious before the book?

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2895 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    I wonder what will happen to ipredict now that it has been shown up as just another tool for manipulation of the message?

    I think it shows where $200 can change the odds so much that it suggests that few people actually bet on the bloody site. It has an “apparent” influence far beyond its value..

    It shows that the MSM responds to an amazingly small number of people in this world. The one man NZ Assoc of Convenience stores, the bullshit of electoral selection by two people. And finally, two RW bloggers who have been shown to feed more bullshit to such an extent that the MSM consider any comment from them as major news.

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1588 posts Report Reply

  • tussock, in reply to Moz,

    They have to be thinking "oh, that smart, sensible, rich greenie I know, he's the exception, the rest are barmy".

    No. They're trying to win elections. They think calling smart, sensible, rich greenies, and all the other kinds, who they know and like and stuff, call them "barmy" is going to help them win elections. Which is their goal.

    There's no doublethink involved. There's the real world where they like you and know green policies are good for people, and there's the fantasy story where they don't know any of that and you're a crazy greenie. Like anyone reading fiction, or watching scary movies, they know the fantasy isn't real, but they also think the story might be good enough to shift a few people into voting for them.

    George W. Bush knew Iraq didn't have WMDs, he wouldn't have invaded if they did. That wasn't the point. The point was to have a good story on the way to militarily managing the looming oil crisis. For Farrar and co, it's not wars, it's just serving the local elite. Being at the coal face and letting the real movers and shakers keep their hands clean, and if people get hurt, well, that's just sad for them isn't it.

    Since Nov 2006 • 607 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to izogi,

    Good question. I've had some loose thoughts but answering it right now is beyond me.

    Really I’d just be keen to see a serious discussion about it, and with political parties engaged and interested in actually committing to making useful changes.

    It needs more than just another talkfest. Any serious solution would need something on the level of the Leveson or Finkelstein Inquiries, which in this case would probably take the form of a Royal Commission.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5418 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Mark Easterbrook,

    Aaron Gilmore on the revenge trail?

    Frankenstein's monster is heading back to the lab, and this time he's bringing the angry village folk with him and helping carry the pitchforks...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7889 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    ruffle trade...

    In the interest of fairness and valance...

    I like this idea, fairness is always good
    and draping fabric to conceal a clunky construction
    is so much like National's usual window dressing...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7889 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Kracklite,

    Can we leave the psychiatry to professionals please? As someone who does have an at times debilitating mental illness, I find the jokes rather less than funny.

    Exactly. I have that diagnosis myself, and the pills to prove it. It's still not an excuse to behave like a complete arsehole. That's on him. When you're chronically ill, you put in place mechanisms to cope with it, if you are unable to monitor yourself. If you don't, don't expect any sympathy from me.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    I wonder what will happen to ipredict now that it has been shown up as just another tool for manipulation of the message?

    It was pretty obvious it was being gamed right from the get go. I've used it as a qualifier to discount predictions that mention it.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to tussock,

    For Farrar and co, it’s not wars, it’s just serving the local elite. Being at the coal face and letting the real movers and shakers keep their hands clean, and if people get hurt, well, that’s just sad for them isn’t it.

    Well said, that grass!

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    Mike Hosking is probably still in the lead, but today the 'Herald on Sunday' editorial makes a valiant effort to compete for his crown:

    The past few weeks have been marked by an unedifying chant, a cheap racial joke and a book that attempts to smear Key by association with an unsavoury blogger.

    Yes, really.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1321 posts Report Reply

  • Dismal Soyanz, in reply to nzlemming,

    I've not read the book yet but at least with iPredict if people are trying to manipulate the prices in a systematic way there is an exploitable opportunity (in theory, at least) to make money from them.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2010 • 310 posts Report Reply

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