Up Front: Respectably-Dressed Sensible Demure Lady Stroll
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recordari, in reply to
something not safe for work :)
NSFW is a much better name for a cocktail. Just sayin'.
ETA: We just turned Emma's thread into Twitter. Oops.
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nzlemming, in reply to
So happy that I may just have to do my headbanging dance
Headbanging. To Wham.
Somehow, I think a few memos have been missed. -
Jackie Clark, in reply to
this is special headbanging - there's alot of flicking of hair and groovy head action
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Everyone secretly likes Wham.
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Emma Hart, in reply to
ETA: We just turned Emma's thread into Twitter. Oops.
And I said there was no WIN on the internet...
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Headbanging. To Wham.
Fortunately for the uninitiated, there’s this helpful video demonstration.
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webweaver, in reply to
Crikey!
If we all practice real hard and get those moves nailed we could have a PAS-Glee-style-FlashMob-for-WHAM! and it would be awesome.
...although, the "one potato two potato" move with knocked knees at the same time looks a leeetle bit tricky....
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BenWilson, in reply to
If we all practice real hard and get those moves nailed we could have a PAS-Glee-style-FlashMob-for-WHAM! and it would be awesome.
Can I play the blonde coach lady?
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a city in denial...
there is no WIN
just thinking this could be a nice
sign for that Wellington Hillside...
...with a fallen 'D' at the end
(just as the Hollywood one lost
its terminating 'LAND' early on...) -
recordari, in reply to
(just as the Hollywood one lost
its terminating 'LAND' early on...)I don't know, WINDLAND has a certain appeal, with both literal and figurative relevance.
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Sacha, in reply to
WINDLAND
likes
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a lot of flicking of hair and groovy head action
And, well, that doesn't sound like George Michael's style at all .
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I’ve been thinking about what’s so wrong about comparing rape prevention with theft prevention (not walking home alone is like locking your car, etc.)
They're fundamentally different actions. You have the right not to have your property interfered with, but no fundamental right to leave it unlocked - it's just common sense.
Being able to dress in a particular way and drink alcohol (and not be raped) are basic freedom of expression and movement rights, on top of the right not to be raped. We shouldn't deprive potential rape victims of the right to dress in ways that show off their body, or have too much to drink (or, be in their home with someone that they know) because there are rapists.
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giovanni tiso, in reply to
Being able to dress in a particular way and drink alcohol (and not be raped) are basic freedom of expression and movement rights, on top of the right not to be raped. We shouldn't deprive potential rape victims of the right to dress in ways that show off their body, or have too much to drink (or, be in their home with someone that they know) because there are rapists.
Hinemoana Baker linked yesterday to the famous Boys Beware film, the one that compares male homosexuality with smallpox. But it occurred to me that same producers also made a Girls Beware video, which is just as notable for how comparably less outrageous it seems, in that it frames a woman's safety with common sense measures to reduce risk, like the Lisa ad. Another way of reading that of course is that while perceptions of male homosexuality have changed a lot in the last half century, in the case of women and rape and safety... not so much.
So, topically: Girls Beware (1961).
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Bart Janssen, in reply to
I may just have to do my headbanging dance
Jackie it's Wham so that should be handbagbanging
... living up to my role as a hater
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Another way of reading that of course is that while perceptions of male homosexuality have changed a lot in the last half century, in the case of women and rape and safety… not so much.
The cultural prejudices embedded into Sid Davis’s cautionary films are a thing to marvel at. He was the permanently alarmed and fearful father of a girl. In his first film, The Dangerous Stranger, children who paid no heed to their parents’ warnings were kidnapped by strangers and never seen again. (Davis was so obsessed by this theme that he made The Dangerous Stranger three times.)
Sometimes, the dangers were more prosaic: in Live and Learn, Davis’s own daughter played a little girl who ran with scissors and was impaled.
But the one place where there was never any peril – unlike, say, the real world – was within the family itself. And as you correctly observe, there are parts of that giant hairball of prejudice that are washing out even now.
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giovanni tiso, in reply to
But the one place where there was never any peril – unlike, say, the real world – was within the family itself.
Or church, one assumes.
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
But the one place where there was never any peril – unlike, say, the real world – was within the family itself.
Because nuclear families never have their 3 Mile Islands, right?
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Sue,
Note first: My discussion of this film & the links may act as triggers for people, so don;t read on, or emma edit this if you feel appropriate.
In watching a Jodie foster film on TV. I'm reminded of 'The Accused' which she won an academy award for, it's from 1998, it was really groundbreaking at the time in how it dealt with rape, but also in the relationship between 2 women from 2 very different backgrounds after the rape.
In looking up the details online i came across rogert ebert's review
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19881014/REVIEWS/810140301/1023here's his first paragraph -
The Accused" demonstrates that rape victims often are suspects in their own cases. Surely they must have been somehow to blame. How were they behaving at the time of the crime? How were they dressed? Had they been drinking? Is their personal life clean and tidy? Or are they sluts who were just asking for it? I am aware of the brutal impact of the previous sentence. But the words were carefully chosen, because sometimes they reflect the unspoken suspicions of officials in the largely male judicial system.That's 1998, and we are in 2011, and that paragraph does not sound out of date or out of time.
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Kate Hannah, in reply to
I'm at work, working (natch) so didn't listen to it, but Katherine Ryan did a ghastly intro on monring report about what was coming up on nine to noon - something about new research into the use of date-rape drugs than seemed to boil down to "it's the way the girls are drinking." I may have shouted "no, it's the way the rapists are raping" out loud. Please someone who listened to Nine to Noon fill me/us in on the report.
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on subject: why Stuff.co.nz is advertising the biography of an American nutbar's daughter is beyond me, but... warning on content for how she lost virginity to that sterling chap levi johnston.
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Back to slutwalk, I'm somewhat disappointed because I had sort of rounded up a number of us decidedly middle aged women to march. But it appears I have a date with a very special dog on that day, so it looks like I won't be there.
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nzlemming, in reply to
Please someone who listened to Nine to Noon fill me/us in on the report
Sorry, I thought the same as you when I heard the promo and turned it off. You can download it here if you want to hear it.
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I didn't hear the promo but I did listen to Kathryn Ryan's interview. I thought that the interviewees pointed out simply that a lot of sexual abuse was associated with excessive alcohol consumption . Which it is - fact. Just saying. They were also at pains to emphasise that they were not blaming victims or casting them as agents of their own misfortune. They mentioned the issue of other drugs (prescription or recreational) interacting with alcohol to increase intoxication, and the effect of this on recall and consent. I couldn't see any reason to hate on the interview really.
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nzlemming, in reply to
I couldn’t see any reason to hate on the interview really
It’s still wrong to rape drunk people.
When the discussion is all about the intoxication, the point of the rape is minimised.
ETA I'm glad to hear, though, that they weren't into blaming the victims, but it is avoiding the major issue.
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