Hard News: Dirty Politics
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Scott Yorke nails it nicely.
Cameron Slater is the real victim -
Tom Semmens, in reply to
I see Slater is going into his grab bag of diversions he deploys when he is feeling the heat and claiming he has had death threats. Poor widdle Cam, he is the real victim here!
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Any one with a hard copy out there…
Can you tell me what the cover illustration is of?I’ve been squinting and turning and twisting…
best I can come up with is that this is showing deterioration caused by toxic elements, rust, oxidation, corrosion…
…though there were moments when I saw a close-up of the grassy knoll shooter, with a host of Lou Reeds in the top right corner – or the Turin Shroud – and that can’t be right! -
Alfie, in reply to
I see Slater is going into his grab bag of diversions he deploys when he is feeling the heat and claiming he has had death threats.
And as a bonus diversionary tactic, why not pin the "torrent of death threats" on Nicky Hager.
He believed Hager would not take responsibility for those threats
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OK, did I hear Slater correctly on the radio just now .... not only did he take Labour party membership information, but he stole credit card data too?
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Alfie, in reply to
Can you tell me what the cover illustration is of?
I don't have a hard copy yet but it appears to be a generic background image.
http://www.tworoadsbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Book-club-background5-copy.jpg
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The Herald, in the shell of the nut ...
"Slater receives death threats", but ...
"Hager claims" ...
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The thing of course is that IF Slater is receiving death threats it's because of his actions, the fact that Hager has made those actions public if neither here nor there.
Coming from the National right being personally responsible for your own actions is a big part of the ethos, Slater had better get with the program and stop tryin to blame others for hos own mistakes
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william blake, in reply to
Ian, it's paint flaking off an institutionally painted wall. But I enjoy the host of Lou Reeds in the top corner, (I think Lou used to quote the ," best lack all conviction" in his concerts)
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nzlemming, in reply to
Any one with a hard copy out there…
Can you tell me what the cover illustration is of?I think it's moldy paint peeling on a concrete wall, although I too though of Lou Reed when I got my copy.
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John Armstrong has written a surprisingly well-balanced piece in today's Herald.
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nzlemming, in reply to
I don’t have a hard copy yet but it appears to be a generic background image.
So it is. Google images is a wonderful tool. And Potton is once again unimaginative [sigh]
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nzlemming, in reply to
And on TV3’s “The Nation”, Cameron Slater accidentally incriminates Judith Collins, confirming her “leak” and contradicting her earlier denials.
That’s the lead story, right there.
The Herald article says:
Ms Collins yesterday confirmed she had given Mr Pleasants' name to Slater.
"What I was asked for was the name and the title of the guy and that's publicly available and I've simply given him that," she told NewstalkZB.
Nation isn't available yet, so what did Slater say that contradicted that?
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nzlemming, in reply to
John Armstrong has written a surprisingly well-balanced piece in today’s Herald.
Somebody must be dosing his feed...
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ScottY, in reply to
Nation isn’t available yet, so what did Slater say that contradicted that?
The interview is here.
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nzlemming, in reply to
The interview is here.
Thank you, Scott. Yer a gent.
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
So it is.
Google images is a wonderful tool.
And Potton is once again unimaginative [sigh]I couldn't make Google image work that way, had to use tineye. to find it here. *
What's more it's a foreign photo
of a foreign distressed wall!What about work for our local walls?
Stand up for the Great Kiwi Divide!* as did Alfie, earlier...
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Bruce Ward, in reply to
John Armstrong has written a surprisingly well-balanced piece in today’s Herald.
Somebody must be dosing his feed...
No, No. Someone is too busy claiming "Nothing to see here. Move along" to continue dosing his feed!
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For the Nats the response is cods wallop - however - the cod that Key and Collins have been walloping belongs to Whale Oil.
Wallop Wallop Wallop
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DexterX, in reply to
At what point do you lose your empathy, and stop seeing the people and only see the politics? It's sad.
I would not consider Slater ever saw the people or wider political issues - he seems to be all about power and hate.
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Andre Alessi, in reply to
I would not consider Slater ever saw the people or wider political issues – he seems to be all about power and hate.
I've thought about this a fair bit, and the only thing that makes sense (short of frankly offensive armchair psychiatry diagnosing him with a genuine disorder) is that he sees himself as part of a larger machine. It's his job to do the distasteful things so that the rest of the guys on his "side" (a side that, admittedly, fluctuates a little) can do what they need to do to win. He's not really in it for the politics per se, and I wouldn't be surprised if similar personality types appear across the political spectrum occasionally.
I guess when you're raised in a family like his, the politics are a given, it's just how you pursue them that's the question. (Although I personally know of at least one daughter of a right wing MP who has rebelled quite successfully, though there is the complicating factor of matters of sexual orientation that make the shift to the left a reasonable response anyway.)
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A certain misplaced vanity will allow one to become the reflection of "dirty work done for good causes". I wonder how many times young Cam has watched this... no points for guessing with whom he empathises. The perfect antihero;
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SteveH, in reply to
I’ve thought about this a fair bit, and the only thing that makes sense (short of frankly offensive armchair psychiatry diagnosing him with a genuine disorder) is that he sees himself as part of a larger machine. It’s his job to do the distasteful things so that the rest of the guys on his “side” (a side that, admittedly, fluctuates a little) can do what they need to do to win.
Perhaps. I think he enjoys himself when he attacks people, I don't think he sees himself as doing something distasteful or that he is taking one for the team. Here's a profile of him from a few years back: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/features/2583835/Internet-warrior. I don't think it supports your take on him. "I do this for me", "It's about getting attention." Incidentally that story includes a quote from Key's then press secretary Kevin Taylor denying any contact between the PM's office and Slater; chalk that up as another baldfaced lie out of the PM's office.
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nzlemming, in reply to
Fuck. That's a traincrash of an interview. What the hell prompted Slater to be part of it? Seems that Gower's worm has turned somewhat.
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nzlemming, in reply to
I couldn’t make Google image work that way, had to use tineye. to find it here. *
The book club link was just below the Media Bakery link when I just tried it. Looks like a pretty standard stock image, by the number of sites hosting it.
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